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(11-03-2017 08:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-03-2017 08:20 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  

(11-03-2017 07:04 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 07:27 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 06:20 PM)odu09 Wrote:  Kind of puts things in perspective. From what you read here, you would think we are better than a program that only gets to the tournament 25% of the time in our rich and storied history. But Jones has gotten us to the tournament 0% of the time, and I would like to thank ODU for providing me with an engineering education that allowed me to calculate that number.

Does it? Don't let him spin the facts. 11 in 40 years is better than one every four years. We are going on 7 and most of those belong to JJ. He also failed to mention that coaches were fired for those other dry spells.

Aside from all that, should we be aspiring to replicate the program's lows, or to maintain the highs and build on them?

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Do you really believe we are replicating the program's lows right now? I think we are in a better position now than we were when BT left the program in a valley. How would anyone be able to build on that? I agree that 7 years is long, but with the current class it feels like there is a trend upwards, or at least the potential for it. Just brings me to my other question of how long is it supposed to take? You would think 4 years, to get all the pieces together. But if 1 in every 3.6 years is our average to maintain, maybe it takes a bit longer to get out of a valley.

Where are you getting 7 years? He hasn't been here that long:

"Jones ranks third in Conference USA for most overall wins in past four years (Jones era). In the past four seasons, he is 46-24 in conference play for a winning percentage of 65.7% and ranks fourth in the conference for most C-USA wins in past four years.

In his fourth season at the helm in Norfolk, Jones and the Monarchs finished third in the C-USA after compiling a 12-6 mark in conference play and 19-12 overall record for the season."

Yeah, sorry, 4th in CUSA is not good enough for me, but it does seem good enough for several.

1. People are super excited about the 4th ranked recruiting class in CUSA.
2. You are touting JJ's 4th in CUSA winning percentage.

At least we know where the pro Jones camp's expectations lie now.

Also, CUSA sucks, and it is almost impossible to not be in the top 4 if you try.

I'm out of this conversation. You and I are obviously at opposite ends of the spectrum. I know my background in sports; I don't know yours, so I won't assume that I know more than you do. You're constantly critical and hyperbolic in saying people who think differently from you are "satisfied." It's bull****. So you go your way and I'll go mine and we'll see down the road what happens.