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(09-25-2017 05:42 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 05:22 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 04:49 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 04:37 PM)monarx Wrote:  Had a long talk with a former player at the last football game. He wasn't too pleased with our scheduling or our conference either. Said they both contribute to the hoops team not being able to position itself for an at large bid. We both agreed the team had to schedule stronger, and win.. and get out of this conference.

That'd be a good argument if a) ODU dominated the OOC schedule regularly and b) did better in-conference. They haven't, for the most part. Losing games to sub-200 RPI teams is what causes teams to not be in the at-large chase—and for good reason. Start being successful against the teams before you before you complain about the teams before you making it hard to be successful.

This is a self fulfilling prophecy. Position yourself among better programs and you are much more likely to reach level than by positioning yourself among lesser competition.

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Yeah, but using that logic, the MEAC should be a multi-bid league because most of their teams play nothing BUT strong teams in the OOC. The best way to demonstrate that something is beneath you is by proving it where it matters — in this case, on the court. Is CUSA beneath ODU? Prove it by winning regular-season titles and NCAA bids. Is the OOC beneath ODU back? Beat the hell out of the teams you're already playing.

ODU isn't losing to William & Mary and UTSA because they're forced to play them. That's a crutch. That's like saying someone who flunked out of high school should be admitted to college because the high school courseload didn't challenge him.

Huh? Your argument makes no sense. I said you will play to the level of the opponents you are surrounded by and you used the worst collection of teams in basketball as an example.

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