It is amazing the huge amount of expertise is in this particular conversation...recruiting, coaching, hiring coaches, play calling, officiating, talent evaluation....by people like me with some or no experience in any of those areas.

Fire Carey? I say we should be lucky to have retained Carey...programs like NIU have two things happen...the coach is successful and moves on eg PJ Fleck or he is bad and is let go. Is he another Nick Saban? Of course not! Is he a good coach? The program is doing pretty well so I say he's doing all right.

A program like NIU's replaces assistant coaches like a fast food restaurant replaces workers. He has managed to bring in replacement coaches that have helped maintain success...a head coach is only as good as the people he surrounds himself with. I give him a solid B in his efforts here.

How many MAC and other group of 5 programs would like to have had NIUs record since Joe Novak was hired? I'd say a hell of a lot of them.

So you want to become a Power 5 school? what is needed? lots and lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Wonder how Oklahoma State got to this point this season? T Boone Pickens and his several millions of dollars that he has donated to the program in recent years.

Firie Carey? B##l S##t