(08-10-2017 06:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 08:35 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 12:36 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 05:04 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Looking at the financial situation, the PAC is in worse shape. The PAC has more desirable brands for the B1G & geographically fit into the B12. A couple B12 teams could slip to the SEC & ACC to make more room in the B12 for PAC schools. BYU & possibly Boise can more easily be assembled into the B12 than the PAC. I can see the B12 outlasting the PAC & this could be why all is quite on the B12 front.


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You have to factor in that the Big 12 is currently getting overpaid. The networks threw them a lifeline to get control of the situation when schools started bailing.

The PAC does take make less money currently, but their demographics are much, much better. They also have a network that they can use as a bargaining chip with the networks.

By contrast, the vast majority of value in the Big 12 is concentrated in 2-4 schools. The networks will have little motivation to pay everyone a competitive rate if the league insists on the status quo. The networks stand to make a lot more money by moving a piece or two to other leagues. Come 2025, if UT and OU want competitive P5 money they are going to have to move. That, of course, creates instability for everyone else.

It would certainly make more sense to move 4-6 B12 schools to the PAC but what if Texas &/or Oklahoma don't want to go? I think they would be foolish to turn down a 6 team eastern division of the PAC but they aren't known for making wise decisions. Oklahoma, Texas, TT, Oklahoma State, Kansas & Iowa State would be a solid division. The SEC could add TCU & the ACC could grab WV for 15 apiece, 3x5. UCONN would still be there for the B1G if they so desired. Texas & Oklahoma can throw a monkey wrench into this though & give the B1G a chance to pickup some PAC brands.

(Playing devils advocate.)


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Lenville it would still be more practical just to split 8 between the SEC and ACC. That's enough to kill the conference and end the GOR.
Iowa State, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State / SEC
Texas, T.C.U., Texas Tech, West Virginia / ACC

Add Florida State, Miami, and Georgia Tech to Texas, T.C.U. & Texas Tech and you have a very nice Gulf Division.

Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, and N.C. State form the Coastal

Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Louisville, West Virginia and Virginia Tech form the Atlantic

Notre Dame remains a partial.

The SEC would have:
Arkansas, Iowa State, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

Alabama, Auburn, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.

ESPN gets their rights and it's all over.

By ESPN merging the B12 & PAC they would be coast to coast & not restricted to just the southeast & east coast. They would take over the PACN & expand it into the Midwest.

Divvying the B12 up between the SEC & ACC creates some issues. ND for example, with ND remaining as a partial you can't have a champs only CFP. Do the SEC & ACC want to go to 18 or more? The more you have the more you have to split the CFP $ with. The more members you have the harder it is to maintain old rivalries.

By controlling 3 power conferences you control autonomy, ESPN would get whatever they want.

The SEC could still get into DFW by adding TCU & stopping at 15. Go to conference SF's in a 3x5, autonomy majority would make this easy. SF's creates additional revenue that isn't shared.

ACC adds ND for 15 & adds SF's as well. Perhaps WV for 16.

Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, TT, Kansas & Iowa State to the PAC combined with TCU to the SEC & WV to the ACC is 8 & enough to dissolve the B12. Kansas State, Baylor, BYU & Boise to the AAC would give ESPN a strong tweener conference for marketing. They would also make a great streaming test subject.


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