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RE: Bathroom Bills - Finally an example of a problem.
(07-17-2017 06:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually the Texas Bill does NOT mandate that Trans people use the bathroom consistent with their equipment. It mandates that people use the restroom consistent with the equipment they were BORN with, not as they have now.

Where did I fail to make it pretty clear that I oppose that standard?

Quote:Part of your issue is that you fundamentally mistake what you want the law to be, with what it actually is.

No, I don't mistake anything.

Your mistake is that you don't pay attention to what I am saying. I'm not saying that I favor the Texas bill as drafted. I don't agree with it. I would guess that I pretty much share your opinion of Dan Patrick as well.

All I'm saying is that there has to be some standard. Your right to be able to pee and poop is universal. That's not being challenged here. Your "right" to pee or poop where you want to, because that is most comfortable to you, has to be weighed against the rights of others not to be put to discomfort by your choice. It's nothing more than a comfort issue both ways, not any sort of fundamental right.

If you have male equipment, you have a right to pee in the boys' room. You do not have a right to pee in the girls' room. And vice versa. That does not in any way interfere with your rights, and it protects the rights of others. I'm not at all opposed to deciding that based on the equipment you have today, and I think that makes more sense for many reasons than deciding that based upon the equipment you were born with.

As I've said before, your fundamental problem is that you are unwilling to give any weight to the rights of anyone but the LGBT community. You have to balance the rights of one with the rights of the other. And when the issue is nothing more than do we make 1% more comfortable or do we make 99% more comfortable, that would seem to be well over in slam dunk territory.

Again, I'll pose the question. How would you resolve the issue, giving appropriate weight to the interests of both groups?
(This post was last modified: 07-18-2017 08:46 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
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