(07-16-2017 10:47 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 09:03 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  Our discussion is about App / GaSo. It's only natural I point out with all your success you still couldn't beat App. You guys have gone through one year of this stuff. As you correctly pointed out, we endured years of it. The talent of Edwards covered up most of the problems, but once he left they really started to surface. While the conference record didn't suffer (26 wins in 3 years) once we got into the playoffs the issues became obvious. IMO it was a reflection on how weak the SmallCon was.

Wait a minute, you're going to tell me with Scott Satterfield, Shawn Elliot, and Mark Speir as assistants your coaching was lacking? Surely you jest.

Now I will say 2009-2011 that App State's offensive coaching was definitely lacking, but it's nothing compared to what we've had. We missed the playoffs four straight seasons. It takes a really high level of ineptitude of coaches and administrators to make that streak possible.

And I wouldn't compare it to the level of ineptitude needed to make our offensive roster last year produce less than 30 points a game last year.

Satterfield and Elliot left after the 09 season and Speir after 2011. Those guys can't be blamed for the downturn. It wasn't App's front office that screwed the program up, it was Jerry Moore. Gave his inept son greater control of the offense. Hired a OL coach with 1 year of experience in D1. Hired 2 former players with a combined 1 year experience in D2. Brought in another former player (you starting to see a pattern here) with zero experience at the collegiate level as S&C coach. Replaced Satterfield at OC & QB coach with a guy who coached 1 year at Elon and 2 years at N Greenville College. Twenty players (six OL signees) either left school or were kicked off the team between 2010 & 12. It was bad. Really bad.