(08-06-2017 10:04 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:41 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Instead of the 4 Big XII members joining the BE the 8 FB playing members of the BE join the XII along with TCU and UCF making a 14 team Big XIV. The BE now a non-FB conference keeps ND and invites Xavier, Creighton, Butler and Saint Louis.

Big XIV:

East- Rutgers, UConn, Cuse, UCF, USF, Pitt, WVU

West- TCU, Baylor, ISU, KSU, KU, Cincy, UofL

Rutgers still gets poached by the B1G and Temple is their replacement.

The interesting thing to consider with this hypothetical is whether Notre Dame still joins the ACC as a member. The biggest draw to ND was not only non-Olympics like basketball, lacrosse and other like-minded sports, but also the football arrangement. In the ACC today, they are with close past affiliations in Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Boston College, and Miami, as well as academic and athletic peers in Duke, Georgia Tech, Florida State and UNC.

With this set-up, would ND prefer a Big XIV similar setup instead? They maintain exposure in the Northeast, Florida and Texas, and would still get their 3 rivalries with Stanford, USC and Navy.

Terry would obviously have more insight, but I would think they would still prefer the ACC (even without Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Louisville) because of UNC, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami and Florida State. If ND had, instead, stayed with the Big East, then I don't think the C8 invite Butler as well. Saint Louis, Creighton and Xavier were no-brainers, but I would think they would have preferred Dayton in order to create an all-Catholic Conference. I'm not sure though, maybe the Presidents would still have preferred Butler over Dayton.

Yeah but Butler coming off of those NCG and actually being in Indianapolis compared to ND who while in Indiana is closer to being a Chicago fan base. Dayton actually doubles up a market and I originally had them in as #12 but figured at that point SLU was playing well and would bring a new market to the conference.