(07-10-2017 05:06 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-10-2017 04:51 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(07-10-2017 04:40 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-10-2017 04:29 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(07-10-2017 02:04 PM)NoDak Wrote:  You've proven your a liar and a fool. You simply have no clue about the Dakotas.

All of the Dakotas moved up without a conference invite. UND moved up with an assurance that the Big Sky would take them when it's transition was over because the Montanas were deadly serious about it. NDSU and SDSU had previously tried to get the Montanas to force them in, but failed. But they lucked out because the Summit kicked out Chicago St and Centenary dropped to DIII, so the then Mid-Con was desperate for members and finally picked them up because there was few other alternatives.

Centenary was in the Summit when we joined. Did the Mid Con need members? Yes. And we were more then happy to get in and eventually, take the league over.

Let's face it. UND and USD followed SDSU and NDSU. We even created a league you could play in, though we only created it for FB (Great West). UND and USD were talking to the Summit and hoping for an MVFC invite. USD got their invite, UND did not.

The Big Sky did not promise UND anything. Fullerton used UND and USD to try and lure SDSU, and his big prize NDSU to the BSC. Had he been able to grab all four Dakota schools he could have built his super conference. In Fullerton's last interview before retirement he stated that his biggest failure as commissioner was not getting NDSU into the league. Why? Had he gotten NDSU the three other Dakota schools would have followed.

Well I made a mistake with the Summit revolving door. Valpo got the hell out so the xDSU's got a chance when Valpo and Chicago St left a gaping hole in the conference.

When are going to admit that Fullerton didn't have a vote? Some schools were pushing for us and it was certainly the Montanas.

The MVFC didn't trust NDSU and SDSU to stick around as they were afraid they would elope with the Montanas so that got in with outrageous FCS exit fees. The MVC Presidents would like a word with the two jack offs on this board.

The Montana's also wanted SDSU and NDSU when we applied. So what, it takes more votes then 2 to get invited to a league. As for Fullerton, he was building his dream and got the smaller schools to finally go along with it. If you like I'll find the article in which Fullerton is quoted. It is actually pretty easy to find, google is your friend.

Outrageous fees? We paid $250,000 each, wow, how outrageous. Definitely less then the $1.5 million UND will be paying the Summit. The MVFC, formerly the Gateway lost Western Kentucky and had to decide if they wanted to go with 7 or invite SDSU and NDSU to get to 9. They chose 9. It really isn't that complicated.

I'll now leave you to your fantasies. Since this thread is supposed to be about the BSC, not UND and the history behind your school wanting to stay D2 it is time to move on.

Talking about exit fees, not entrance fees, if you had left by 2016, which would have been new nearly a mill for one sport affiliation. Just keep posting, because your cluelessness goes on and on.

They were compelling financial reasons that UND delayed a DI decision after the flood, like several hundred million dollars in flood damages on campus and more than a billion in the community, but you insist on your deluded version of history. NDSU jumped at the chance to kick us when we were down.

The exit fee was not $1 million. It was $500K. So again, your "factual" statement of the outrageous early exit fees of "nearly" a million dollars isn't true, unless you are combining the two schools which would be pretty crazy, but... maybe?

You really do have to stop. UND were very happy in D2. UND wanted everyone to stay in D2. UND were not blocked in the 70s nor did NDSU try to hold UND down. You have a rich imagination that gets you in trouble. When someone questions, your very questionable facts you attack. Move on, the BSC northern large schools are NOT moving to the Summit and their is no magical plan going on behind the scenes.