(04-16-2017 08:30 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 06:48 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  About 10 years ago a bill was introduced in the state legislature to allow Cal States to offer Doctoral degrees in applied sciences. So Cal State Bakersfield could offer Doctoral Degrees in Petrochemical Engineering or Long Beach State in Aeronautical Engineering or Fresno State in viticulture. The bill would have passed except for a massive effort by the UC System to block it.

Which is correct. The UC system is probably the top public university research institution in the world.

If you want to be in Calif and at a public research university, then go to UC.

CSU is just for getting an undergrad degree with no research focus.

No. The UC/CSU split has resulted in an extremely inefficient system. It does a terrible job of serving the state's residents.

For example: if you took California's system and applied it to a state the size of Ohio, it'd be about the same size and quality as Ohio's system would be if you shut down Cincinnati, Miami, and Ohio U. This is despite California spending 70% more per state resident.

In a way, it's just like the rest of California - a small but phenomenally wealthy upper class (the UCs), a suffering middle class that's way behind the rest of the country (the CSUs), and a large underclass with few legal rights (in this analogy that's the community college system, which has 2.4 million students but relies almost entirely on local tax levies).