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(03-23-2017 09:42 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 07:43 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 07:29 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 07:22 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 06:36 PM)djnva Wrote:  This isn't just ODU, it's the new landscape of college basketball.

This. Over 700 players transfer every year now. With about 350 teams, it works out to, basically, two players on every team, every year, now transfer.

How many of those are grad transfers though?

None of our losses during jones tenure are from grad transfers so NO, this is not normal.

Nor is it acceptable.

Over 800 transfers last year. Pretty evenly distributed over all years of eligibility.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2016

Think what you want, but over the last two years, only six teams have gone without at least one transfer. It's just the nature of the beast these days. Of course, if you're looking to blame Jones for everything, this is another bullet you'll fire. If you are being intellectually honest, the facts will show it is well within the norm.

Our issue is not just with players choosing to transfer for playing time. We have lost a ton of last ditch recruits that never should have been on the team if JJ didn't fail to fill out the roster with kids who could contribute . Then there are the three players that have been kicked off the team in 4 years and even more suspensions. Its a mess that can't be explained only by the ridiculous number of players transferring across the NCAA.

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Well said Monarchblue. This is in line with what I was referring to. It is not solely about the transfers of Fields and Haynes, but rather the on-going developments where we seem to have one or more discipline issues every season where players are in street clothes for several games, and having people like Pervier that are recruited, then before they even get into the conference season they are kicked off the team. I'm not saying that he maybe should not have been kicked off the team. I'm wondering why he was recruited to begin with if he was such a bad apple. Same could be questioned about Douglas.

The more things like this happen, the more they are likely to continue to happen in my opinion because you are always trying to recover from the recruit(s) that didn't pan out. The last three seasons we have had to rely on walk-ons (Biberaj, Vassor, and Fields) to play significant roles on the team at least partly due to the events being discussed here. I seriously doubt that has ever happened to that extent in all of the prior years that ODU has been playing Division 1 basketball (mid/late 70's).