(03-14-2017 02:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-14-2017 02:12 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Some of the so-called Power 5 teams that got in and/or their seeding is ridiculous.

NWestern, 23-11, RPI=51 (8 seed)
Vandy, 19-15, RPI=38 (9 seed)
Wake Forest, 19-13, RPI=39 (11 seed)
Kansas State, 23-11, RPI=57 (11 seed)

Non-P5 teams left out.
Illinois St, 26-6, RPI=33 (how the hell does this team get left out in favor of one of the above?)
Monmouth, 21-7, RPI=49 (they got screwed last year too IIRC)

Non-P5 teams with absurdly bad seeds.
MTSU, 29-4, RPI=34 (12 seed) --- Beat the brakes off Vandy, btw.
Cincy, 29-5, RPI=12 (6 seed)
SMU, 30-4, RPI=13 (6 seed)

Play a better schedule they'll say... What do you do when they won't play you? Conference schedule is what it is.

Totally agree. At best, Northwestern should have been in the play-in (I don't think they should have been invited over Illinois St.) with Vandy. MTSU should have been a 9/10 (probably better since they're ranked). Wichita should have had a better seed too.

I'm sick of the committee setting up the possibilities for cutesy tournament rematches in the second round like Louisville-Michigan, UK-Wichita, UNC-Arkansas. Stupid.

Even in the world of RPI the non-P5's look better. What I mean is that in the ACC and Big 10 for example RPI is artificially inflated because of your competition. Vandy had the benefit of playing UK twice and SC once. That doesn't make them a good team necessarily. Just those 3 games make that conference schedule is already better than 90% of mid-majors can muster up out-of-conference.

RPI is good to an extent but damn, 3/4 of the formula is outside of your control. I hate to throw my school, ECU, under the bus but Cincy and SMU are hurt by playing us win or lose.