(08-18-2017 06:41 PM)stever20 Wrote:  How does FIP not say that all that matters is striking out guys and avoiding walks and homers? Because that's the only things that they say are within a pitchers control. And that's a joke. I mean a shot in Fenway off the monster and it's a double. How the hell isn't it the pitchers fault? But FIP wants us to believe that it isn't.

Holy crap. Your Fenway example? That's a reason IN SUPPORT of FIP! A double off the monster is a flyball out in most parks. Why do you punish a pitcher for throwing a perfectly good pitch just because he's in Boston?