(07-24-2020 11:15 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 10:32 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  My bad -- the entirety of your position on Portland on this was:

"I think the Portland police have just absolutely failed, in a similar manner, at defusing the situation."

Its all the Portland police's failure to defuse. Or did you just forget to mention the city government as a whole in the entire discussion, all the while knowing that the entire city structure of Portland has supported the protestors and the violence therein?

If so, that statement calling out the 'failure of the Portland police' kind of falls short, especially when talking about the various matches and gasoline in the situation.

Kind of like a sailor inspecting the side of a ship in the North Atlantic in the early hours of May 31, 1911 and furiously denoting the damage the ice did to the paint job on the hull.

Not a great analogy given that a city’s police department is the PRIMARY organization tasked with enforcing laws and controlling crowds...

I frankly doubt you, nor I, have a sufficient understanding of how the forty structure of Portland operates and what influence it has on this outcome. But I have no problem with expanding that comment to include the city government if it makes you happy. Portland (as a whole) absolutely failed at defusing the situation from the start.

I would still say that the 'failed at defusing' falls extremely short of the very obvious 'supporting' that is occurring.

Maybe had the administration actually thought of actually enforcing the laws as they apply to the Federal courthouse and its environs, the police wouldnt be the will o wisp that it is. Why do *you* think the Portland police are nonexistent? Maybe all of them were called out to stop a frat party somewhere else? Sorry lad, that is an executive decision, and one made well above the office of police superintendent. Seems there only a limited number of chairs left in that chain. Why the recalcitrance at actually verbalizing what is happening here?

While kind of like 'the US failed at helping the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan', or 'my lawnmower's failure to defuse the lawn growth' when I dont use the lawnmower at all, but I am nonetheless glad to see that lukewarm movement to the obvious point.