(07-17-2020 08:27 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Seeing reporting out of Portland of federal troops hopping out of vehicles and grabbing people in the streets. Freaky-deaky to say the least, especially when you see a video of it.

Quote:A block west of Chapman Square, Pettibone and O’Shea bumped into a group of people who warned them that people in camouflage were driving around the area in unmarked minivans grabbing people off the street.
“So that was terrifying to hear,” Pettibone said.
They had barely made it half a block when an unmarked minivan pulled up in front of them.
“I see guys in camo,” O’Shea said. “Four or five of them pop out, open the door and it was just like, ‘Oh ****. I don’t know who you are or what you want with us.’”
Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal...rotesters/

From all the videos I've seen, it appears that they are looking for specific individuals and taking them in while ignoring others around them. It appears to be a very focused effort, not just grabbing people willy-nilly.

Let's see, they've had some property destruction, including burning at least one building related to law enforcement. At least some of those facilities probably had security cameras, and there is something called facial recognition software.

If they are grabbing vandalism perps that they have identified off security cameras or otherwise, then I have no problem with it. If they are indiscriminately picking up random people, then I do have a problem.

As far as camos without name tags and unmarked vehicles, I really don't ave a problem, per se. Officers in uniform traveling in marked police cars are going to attract mob attention, whereas traveling incognito may be a much more effective technique to apprehend criminals without inciting violence.

If you are a perp, and you get picked up in a way that does not harm you, then I don't see your grounds for complaining that the method was not in accordance with your expectations. LEOs in unmarked police cars make stops all the time, and non-uniformed plainclothes LEOs make arrests all the time.