(07-05-2020 07:01 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 03:06 PM)mrbig Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 01:46 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I'd point out that Big did the exact same thing, when he noted that comparing Biden in Ukraine to Trump, that he feels Trump has profited from his election, so he's okay with it.

That is not remotely what I said. I'm not OK with it in the way the Trump family has obviously done it (Trump staying at Trump properties and forcing other government employees like Secret Service to stay at his properties is the easiest example). I'm not OK with it in the way that OO asked in his hypothetical (and I said as much). What I said was that even if Trump and Biden were equally bad in that way (and for the record, I do not think they are), that issue would merely cancel out in my mind but I would still have other reasons to vote for Biden.

No, no... Big.... YOU don't get to make distinctions if I don't. You guys have all denied us any nuance to our positions... so you as well are denied.

You said that you would vote for Biden even if he used his political position for personal gain... you are thus (by the rules YOU guys have put in place) 'indistinguishable' from those who are okay with it, thus YOU are okay with it.

Can you see why someone might get upset at people doing that to them, repeatedly?

Sure! Except I did the opposite of that. Give it up, either you don't get it, I don't get it, we both don't get it, or we both get it. Go Rice

I will say this. You and I met in person and got along. George and I have met in person and got along. I have no doubts whatsoever that if we were having these kinds of discussions over a pitcher of beer, we wouldn't be running into these kinds of roadblocks, misconceptions, and difficulties communicating. I have shed any of those at this point and I hope you do the same if we are ever fortunate enough to meet again. Maybe something we can all agree on is that these kinds of discussions are much more difficult to engage in via written word, where we can say or insinuate things that we would often not do to each other's face (or at least we would be able to see the humor in the other's eyes when making a subtle prod).