(07-02-2020 06:03 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  But, haven't you acted as if the alleged (but unproved) Trump "irregularities" are an absolute bar? So are you saying that unproved irregularities are an absolute bar but proved irregularities (the OO hypo) aren't?

I don't think I have ever said anything about "absolute bar". There are hundreds of reasons why I think Trump is basically the worst possible President. Him personally profiting and his family profiting from his presidency in unorthodox ways is merely one of hundreds.

(07-02-2020 06:03 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  In other words, you know what the answer has to be, but you don't want that answer, so feign criticism of the form of the question in order to evade answering?

No ... it is exactly as I wrote. What does he mean by "spying"? Counter-intelligence, criminal investigation, or something more nefarious? Is it something that went through normal levels of review and approval (whether intelligence or criminal) that Biden became aware of an approved of? Or was it something purely political done by political operatives? In the scenario, did Biden just essentially rubber stamp something that was already happening for a while, or did he direct it from an early time? The scenario constructed with each of those affects my opinion.

(07-02-2020 06:03 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Is this specific enough for you? If it were proved that the FBI 1) spied illegally on the Trump campaign, and 2) falsified evidence as part of that effort, and that VP Biden knew and approved of both 1) and 2), would that be sufficient to cause you not to vote for him?

Yes, that would be sufficient and I would not vote for him. But its an easier decision for me since I live in Louisiana and Louisiana isn't voting for Biden as a state anyway. I would certainly join any effort to pressure Biden to step down from the ticket or to remove him from office if he won the election.

(07-02-2020 06:03 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I realize that you have no great enthusiasm for Biden. Am I correct on presuming that is because he is not far enough left for you? Don't worry. He is plenty far left, and he will pick a VP running mate who is far enough left to suit Che Guevara, and he will be 25th Amendmented within 12 months to make her president.

Not at all. I'm an ageist and I think Biden is too old. To me he is clearly a little mentally slower than he was 10 years ago, but I certainly don't think he is senile or anything. I just think the Presidency is a really exhausting job and having 70+ year old presidents is not ideal. That is why I wish Biden, Bernie, and Warren had all stayed out of the race. It had nothing to do with him not being far enough left, as my top choice (Buttigieg) was not that far to the left of Biden. I also liked Booker and Klobuchar and neither of them were the furthest to the left.

(07-02-2020 06:03 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think Biden is the perfect candidate for those of your ilk. He is the Trojan horse.

Times number 69, 70, and 75 that one of the conservatives on here have incorrectly described me.