(07-02-2020 10:52 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 10:44 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 10:14 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Aannndddd I'm out.

When you jump to such a conclusion as labeling me a "socialist" when I haven't even come close to either stating that, or advocating for actual socialism, it's time to bow out.

You've spent the majority of this thread telling 3 people who didn't vote for Trump last time and at least two who have said they still don't intend to... that we are 'blind Trump supporters'.... but boy, when you get labeled by the party you clearly advocate for and voted for last time and will vote for again... you've had enough.

Laughable

Did he say "blind" Trump supporters? To me that would be a supporter that is clueless about his obvious flaws. It seemed like he was saying that you guys recognize his flaws and, despite them, there is little that he could do that would make you not support him (not voting for him in Texas is a likely meaningless move and at least one of you have stated that they WILL vote for him if it seems close).

yeah, "blind" to me applies to those who would vote for a party regardless of their platform or their candidate. I usually use "Automatic Straight Ticket Democrats' for this.

I think most of us trump voters (2020) are keenly aware of his flaws, or if you rather, the things we don't like about him. Those, along with hopelessness in the face of an expected Hillary election, are what led me to sit out 2016. I am also keenly aware of the things I DO like about him, and those are why I intend to vote FOR him instead of once again sitting this one out and letting the boat drift where it may.

What do I like about him? Well, his track record for one. he has done many of the things economically that I wanted done, and want continued. They have been effective. What do the Democrats want? To reverse all that, and return to 2015. Kill the goose, and feed it to the poor.

Behind tax/fiscal policy, my second priority is a strong foreign policy. After years of watching Obama say excuse me to the Russians and paying tribute to the Iranians, I am glad to have a president who will stand up to foreign powers. You guys want Biden, who starts every sentence with "Barrack and I" and so must own Obama's failures as his own. Every dictator in the world is just "biding" time until the election, and the hope that they will no longer have to deal with trump, but instead get Biden. Surely that should be an indicator to you.

There seems to be an unspoken assumption from the left that if we don't disapprove of everything he does and says, we must approve of everything he does and says. We keep saying that is not so. It keeps falling on deaf ears.

Lastly, it is a two horse race. If the horses were Sanders and Biden, I would go Biden. But Biden is just a false front for the Socialists, and will be a puppet for a year or two, then gone. All he wantsi s his name in the history books. Done, Jan. 20, 2021.

So, for me, it comes down to Trump and the capitalists against the anti-capitalistic basket of half the Democrats who favor AOC or Sanders/Warren. I will vote capitalist.