(07-02-2020 02:49 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 07:31 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If it was shown that Biden knowingly let his son sell his influence and/or access to him, would this be enough for you to not vote for him?

No. The Trump family profits off the presidency right now in the same way so those things would cancel out leaving me with my preference for Biden over Trump. That said, I'd prefer replacing Biden if possible or pressuring him to step down (or possibly impeachment, depending on a lot of circumstances).

But, haven't you acted as if the alleged (but unproved) Trump "irregularities" are an absolute bar? So are you saying that unproved irregularities are an absolute bar but proved irregularities (the OO hypo) aren't?

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(07-01-2020 07:31 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If it were shown that the government spying on the Trump campaign and the falsification of evidence was done with the knowledge and approval of VP Biden, would this make you not vote for him?

I don't think this scenario is specific enough for me to decide and the language you use is extremely subjective.

In other words, you know what the answer has to be, but you don't want that answer, so feign criticism of the form of the question in order to evade answering?

Is this specific enough for you? If it were proved that the FBI 1) spied illegally on the Trump campaign, and 2) falsified evidence as part of that effort, and that VP Biden knew and approved of both 1) and 2), would that be sufficient to cause you not to vote for him?

I realize that you have no great enthusiasm for Biden. Am I correct on presuming that is because he is not far enough left for you? Don't worry. He is plenty far left, and he will pick a VP running mate who is far enough left to suit Che Guevara, and he will be 25th Amendmented within 12 months to make her president.

I think Biden is the perfect candidate for those of your ilk. He is the Trojan horse. Nobody with the Alinsky/Antifa/sociaklit/communist views of the democrat far left can get elected on her own views, but you can pair her with Biden and sell him as a "moderate" to get her elected, and the axe Biden and you've accomplished your goal. I wish republicans were that clever. I'm counting on them to protect me from the likes of whoever will be on the democrat ticket, and so far they are doing a piss-poor job.