(06-10-2020 09:44 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 09:18 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 09:02 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 05:44 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 09:23 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  So the riots and all the rest of the protests are now about the gross inequities of doobie busts?

Can I get “Deflections” for 100?

Your focus is on the disparate number of 'doob busts'. That is the single gross disparity available --- when all you can show is 'greater doob busts' that seems to be sole lynchpin around for this great 'systemic problem' that you have waxed so greatly about.

We know that rates for murder, major drug offenses, and violent crime overall aren't the crux of the 'gross intentional inequities', and the evidence about common outcomes within socioeconomic classes for equal offenses seems to be the better control (as opposed to strictly race)

What seems to be left in the absolute hellhole of black existence is doob arrest rates. And I told you I dont dispute that, based on personal observation alone. So the crux of all the supposed 'the law is so fing unjust' is --- doob arrest rates.

Not a 'deflection' -- a single sentence that ties together all the previous discussion about the 'hellhole that the is the Black condition re: legal matters' in the last portion of this thread.

It is not the sole example of the disparity, but it is a very well know. And clear example. I literally provided a Wash Po article that summarized multiple articles and studies of different issues, but that must have been missed.

Couple of points:

1) as opposed to many other occasions you and I have been having a rather above board discussion. If you want to go down the snotty, trail here, that is your choice.

2) I did not read it. Maybe I read it and have forgotten about it. I actually looked at the string of posts you have made since your newer one here:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-797972-post-16...id16855478

Sorry I dont see any links to anything in that timeframe. My deepest apologies for not referencing or referring to this amazing cache of biblical like insights.

Quote:But sure, keep arguing the point you want me to be making, as opposed to the one that’s been made (which is that this is an example of the systemic issues and racial bias in policing).

I am arguing the point that you have just most recently made, lad. I am sorry that you made that one your last point. Excuse the fk out of me for actually referencing that sole point that you just recently made.

But you aren't arguing the last point - you're arguing that it is the crux of the argument, as opposed to an example provided to support the argument.

See this post for the Wash Po article: https://csnbbs.com/thread-797972-post-16...id16855005

Quote:As the article says, "Of particular concern to some on the right is the term “systemic racism,” often wrongly interpreted as an accusation that everyone in the system is racist. In fact, systemic racism means almost the opposite. It means that we have systems and institutions that produce racially disparate outcomes, regardless of the intentions of the people who work within them. When you consider that much of the criminal-justice system was built, honed and firmly established during the Jim Crow era — an era almost everyone, conservatives included, will concede rife with racism — this is pretty intuitive. The modern criminal-justice system helped preserve racial order — it kept black people in their place. For much of the early 20th century, in some parts of the country, that was its primary function. That it might retain some of those proclivities today shouldn’t be all that surprising."

The article brings up evidence ranging from racial profiling in police stops to discrepancies in pedestrian violations to differences in arrest rates for marijuana to how frequent jurors were struck (based on race) to how the death penalty is applied across races and on and on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opin...the-proof/