(06-09-2020 02:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 02:15 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 01:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Yes, you wax eloquently about all the horrible and painful 'issues', and cry forlornly about the 'systemic problems', and when actual numbers pop forth all you do is a cheap vaudeville version of a tap dance.

Maybe instead of the opinion articles, and the loaded language you seemingly have an ending fing supply of, perhaps you address something a little more objective in nature. You know, kind of the way you ran away from ever commenting on 'systemic issues' and 'systemic problems' in the first instance.

I mean, seriously, even you have a fairly substantial stick up your ass about the issue of *any* "[X] Lives Matter" when [X] != Black. Funny that.

I don't have a stick up my ass about it. I am aware, though, that many black people find the term "All Lives Matter" dismissive to their plight.

Quote:Using your 'logic' many Hmong should be equally as incensed at the proposition of any "[X] Lives Matter" when [X] != Hmong.

Or more starkly, Hispanics should go through the fing roof under your logic with the proposition of any "[X] Lives Matter" when [X] != Hispanic.

I guess when you feast on the bull**** proposition that Blacks are suffering the jackboots of systematic oppression, I just might agree with your thought smorgasbord. But I have yet to see the evidence of the amazing and overriding steel cold oppression that sits at the core of your thesis (theology).

Did you read the article or nah?

How to you accurately quantify police mistreatment of black people?

And, once again, please particularize your grandiose allegation of 'police mistreatment of black people' perhaps?

I mean, you are supposedly a smart guy, Rice, yada yada yada. You do know the difference between 'generalized grandiose and conclusory statement' and 'put up something that backs that generalized grandiose and conclusory statement', right? Hopefully?

I mean, you have run the hell away in every instance from actually identifying *anything* regarding your previous statements on 'systemic blahbitty blah blah blah' and now replace it with an equally gossamer construct. Good job there '93.

Krist on fing cracker.

Quote:How do you quantify episodes similar to this morning's "cartoon"?

Uhhh... as vignettes. Proof by vignette falls horribly short of proof. That should be a basic logical construct. Apparently not.

Quote:Do you think that the mistreatment of black people is in America's rear-view mirror?

Perhaps not. But it certainly doesnt live up to the jackboot of total oppression that you make it out to be. Let me restate -- not up to the vacuous, glossy, and gossamer wisp that your persistent and continued conclusory statements do. Of course, you offer no objectivity to the your 'statements', yet are perplexed when there is a stated disbelief or statements that are critical over the bald and conclusory statements that seem to be your only form of sustenance in this issue.

If all you can state is nothing more than such issues, then hide behind those very non-substance bearing and conclusory statements -- your actions are nothing more than preaching.

Wait... you want me to prove that black people are negatively affected by racism in 2020?

Do you want to look at health outcomes of black versus white Americans? Even when stratified by income? The infant mortality rate of black kids versus white kids?
Maternal death rate?

How about the rate that black people are imprisoned for drug-related crimes relative to the rate of white people convicted of similar crimes? Once out of prison, the rate of call-backs following job interviews for a black person with a criminal record relative to the rate that a white person with a criminal record?

Housing? How about the some mortgage programs used to be restricted to white applicants and how the opportunity to own their homes has affected black wealth? How about segregation, redlining, and laws that upheld housing discrimination?

Education? Do you think we have an equal public school setup for black versus white children? Do black kids often have teachers that look like them? How about the unequal way that punishment in schools is delivered?

How about being charged higher interest rates for loans despite the same income/credit scores as a white person?

How about falling asleep in the college commons and waking up to the police standing over you because somebody called them?