(06-09-2020 10:07 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 09:58 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 09:39 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 09:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 06:58 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  OO - I’m wondering if you read the transcript from the Kaepernick interview and if you still believe he wasn’t protesting against police brutality?

This isn’t related to whether or not you agree with him, or his protest, but just to the content of his protest, and whether it included police brutality.

He was protesting oppression, and to the extent that would include police brutality toward black people, I guess it could be included, along with housing discrimination and Starbucks baristas being impolite. But nobody is protesting those things separately. How did PB become the face if the movement?

Did you read the transcript? It's pretty clear why "PB" become the face of the movement - Kaepernick talked about it extensively and explicitly.

Quote:Adopting it as the public issue is just a smoke screen. It was not the issue when he sat the first time. It is an easy thing to get support for.

Stop it with the gaslighting! I have provided, numerous times in this thread, direct sources (i.e. words Kaepernick spoke) where he clearly states that police brutality was a focus of the protest from the moment he sat. I provided a transcript from an interview the day after his initial comments where he clearly explains this, but somehow you keep saying it wasn't part of the initial protest.

Ehgads!

Quote:As I have said many time to deaf ears, I oppose police brutality. Who the hell doesn't? I don't think even white supremacists like police brutality. maybe Antifa. So it is an easy way to get people to stand with you. If your rallying cry is "this is an oppressive country", maybe it is a bit tougher. I will stand in unison against PB, if it is made clear we are talking about ALL PB, not just the stuff that sometimes happens to blacks. I am against police beating up people, all people, any person, not just police beating up black people. I think All lives matter, not just Black ones. But I am told that is racist.

And yet your cute little gif avoids any of the topics that OO notes when talking about 'All Lives Matter'. I thought you were a tad above gif-boy in that regard. Perhaps not.

It perfectly responds to it.

Saying "Black Lives Matter" does not mean that other lives do not matter. Same way Jesus wasn't saying other people aren't blessed.

It's just a much more succinct way to present that idea.

But yet saying 'All Lives Matter' is now at the forefront of the Maoist cancel culture 'get rid of list'. Please dont dance around that 'nuance'.