(06-08-2020 06:39 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Do you think that, in general, some black people's racist attitudes towards white people are as significant as some white people's racist attitudes towards black people? Do you think those attitudes have historically caused an equal amount of damage in either direction?

Equal? Heavens, no. Certainly not on the scale of slavery. But plenty of damage? Absolutely. Enough to be problematic? Absolutely.

Quote:You think racism in America is not that big a deal these days. I disagree. Lots of people agree with me. I imagine plenty of people agree with you.

I don't think anyone believes that it is not a big deal, least of all Tanq or I. But going from there to "systemic" racism in our police forces as a fairly major jump. How about the problem lies somewhere in between?

These two responses on my part get at what I see as a huge intellectual problem in discussions with leftists. Either racism is "not that big a deal" or it is "systemic." Either black racism toward whites "caused an equal amount of damage" or it can somehow be ignored. Either I must believe that we must all go to electric cars tomorrow or I am a "climate denier." It's not black and white, it's not all extremes. They only reason to paint the issue that way is to impose some unrealistic and unreasonable constraints on the argument. I am not wiling to allow you to go there.

Quote:Arrrghh! Don't make me pull up that quote. Was it Owl#'s? Maybe OldOwl? I don't want to take the time to find it but I think I quoted it accurately. It wasn't you. I don't think you need to clarify it for the author. They were very clear.

What quote?