(06-08-2020 08:17 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 07:41 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 07:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 07:23 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 07:13 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Then what the hell is the 'systemic issue' that you bandy about like a sparkler at a Fourth of July carnival?

Note very specifically how the life of a black in the United States is so amazingly horrendous, and chock full of systemic racism?

And, as to your last sentence, it sure as fk better not be about 'police killing black people.' The objective numbers dont support that rather crappy canard, do they?

I do find it interesting that you never bothered to comment on the issue of 9 deaths as being a vacuous part and parcel of this 'thing of ours' playing out in the street. Are you saying that that amazing number *is* a significant basis for the protests?

Or is 9 deaths so horrendous that it should be demonstrated on?

Hate to tell you, 9 deaths is an objective number. Perhaps you should actually deal with it cogently at some point.

I believe that black people are policed differently than white people to the detriment of black people. This is based on studies that I have read and conversations that I have had. IMO, the actual number of black people killed by police annually doesn't tell the whole picture of the problem.

So the 'killing our children by the bucketload' is simply a grotesque, and massive misstatement?

Yes black people are 'policed differently'. By definition. They commit 60% of the violent crime in the nation. 45% of the murders. No doubt that they are convicted of these crimes in far greater numbers than any group.

Should there be a strict racial quota on such convictions? I mean you have now retreated to 'difference in policing'. The amazingly out of control crime rate amongst balck communities is absolutely shocking.

Do we police violent crime and murder differently? Do we step up patrols in River Oaks to show 'equal policing'?

Seriously, to huge extent the conviction rate in black society is a massive problem. Seemingly at some level a self-inflicted one. But yet everyone else is to blame for this?

By policing differently, I'm more referring to the white kid who gets caught smoking a doob in his car gets told to go home whereas the black kid in the same situation gets arrested. Maybe gets pulled out his car and thrown to the ground to top it off.

So if there is a disparity in 'being busted for a doob' offense, that is all the justification *you* need to call something a 'systemic problem'? Seriously?

Look I would grant you your 'magic words' if all else was equal in terms of serious crime. But...... that isnt the case. Not by a long shot.

If thousands unarmed blacks were killed to say, 200 or so whites, yeah, that major effect I would say your white wash words of 'systemic injustice' might ring true.

But at the end of the day, when:

1) the killings are abandoned by you as a source (which they should be, goo job there), and

2) when violent crime interactions are abandoned by you as a cause (again, they should be, the numbers of offenses by blacks in those areas *dwarfs* pretty much any other violent crime ehtnic wannabe),

now you point to the *horrendous* inequity of things like doob arrests as the sole crux and now the *only* source of the platitude of 'systemic injustice' that you toss around.

Awesome.

I really wish there was a head slap emoji....

I was using doob arrests as a general example of the way black people may be treated differently than white people when it comes to the police. Sorry if you thought that it was the only issue that I feel is important. I certainly didn't mean to imply that.

I never brought up violent crime interactions so I wasn't ever in a position to "abandon" it.

If you find that head slap emoji, please let me know how to use it. There was a post recently where somebody whattabouted black people who are racist against whites during a discussion of racism in America.