(06-03-2020 04:46 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 04:42 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 04:25 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 03:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Actually I used the park services comments on it. Not a National Review article. Further, the park services statement is corroborated by Arlington County, whose officers aided the operation.

As for the 'tear gas', the photos are absolute proof of that --- the cops arent wearing gas masks.

Have you ever had an experience with tear gas? Many many moons ago, in a foreign country that was having some 'civil issues' a caught a whiff of it about four blocks downwind of its use. It'll incapacitate you without masking even at that distance and levels.

So the proof is absolutely in the pudding just in the photos of of the cops without masks. So the NYT is already proof positive incorrect there. Funny that.

https://twitter.com/rebtanhs/status/1267...60418?s=20

"Moreover, Washington Post reporters at the demonstration, including metro reporter Rebecca Tan, photographed National Guard members (though not Park Police officers) wearing gas masks, “moments before authorities started firing.” That certainly suggests they were preparing to deploy tear gas."

National Guard members but perhaps not cops.

When a force uses tear gas -- everyone on the side that employs it uses gas masks.

There are hundreds of photos of cops in the park without gas masks.

But please keep beating that drum.

Perhaps there wasn't time for adequate coordination among all units providing security? Sounds like it was a bit of a clusterf***. Why were the National Guard wearing masks? If there was a threat of chemical use from the protesters shouldn't the park police have been using masks as well?

Dude -- what does it take? If there was even a single tear gas canister used in that park, *anyone* caught out in that park unprotected would either be running for the next block, or be face down on the street in a pile of saliva, tears, and snot, or standing around helplessly, likely somewhat blinded temporarily, and hoping to heaven that someone had a massive stream of water to wash out their eyes and face.

God almighty, you seem amazingly dead set that tear gas is some mild mannered thing that causes just a slight incapacitation. It isnt that. It renders anyone in a very large dispersion area fundamentally unable to function, sometimes unable to even stand up.

The pictures of the park, with many cops/guards without masks, and hardly any 'occupiers' without masks still functioning in a normal manner says that no tear gas was used.

Seriously, tear gas really fks you up. It literally incapacitates you in almost every sense of the word.

But, you still keep bringing up these 'what abouts' (like above) when you simply do nto understand what tear gas does. Got it. You have an serious urge deep in those trousers of yours to score some TDS points, and by god you are *not* going to give up that opportunity.

And bluntly, everyone on a police force, and everyone who has served in the military gets the 'gas treatment' -- it is part of basic. They pop a can in large tent with the trainees inside, and tell them they get a steak dinner if they can stand in there for 15 secs. No one ever gets that steak, mind you.

So no, the cops and military *all* know how powerful the stuff is.

But, and again, please keep beating that drum.