(06-03-2020 04:47 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 02:45 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 12:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  First of all, the photo I posted is from a right-wing protest, where protestors were in the face of law enforcement.

Look again at your photo. The guy with the beard is 'between' two cops... yelling at (I suspect) a legislator behind them. He is not waiving anything at anyone. He is not physically threatening the cops. They may be there, but I don't see any bats or sticks or rocks or umbrellas or water balloons or anything else. I don't even see any raised arms.

so your own photo demonstrates a loud, but peaceful protest.

The minute that guy picks up a stick, or engages in actions that makes the police feel that they, or the people they are protecting are being physically threatened, the rules of engagement for the police will change.

I'm not going to get too deep into the pointless argument about whether 'on the average' the left or right is more violent... but I think it pretty clear that the majority of the violence we're seeing today is coming from the left. Heck, even the whole 'no justice, no peace' chant implies violence as opposed to peaceful protest.

You’ve seen the images of these protestors with guns, right? Certainly more dangerous than a stick of umbrella.

My overall point is that there seems to be two issues driving the increase in violence between right-wing and left-wing protests. One is that there are more instigators involved with the left-wing protests. The other is that LEO’s appear to be far more willing to proactively engage left-wing protestors and use force, which escalates the situation.

My comment to OO was to show that right-wing protests can get testy and they can involve people brandishing dangerous weapons. Yet LEO’s act appropriately and don’t escalate.

Maybe its because the right wingers dont go ape **** as a general rule. Standing around with a (horrors) gun in the Michigan State house is an absolutely legal activity.

Left wingers in that situation seemingly start down the violence path. Again --- Berkeley (many times), Sacramento (at least twice), Portland (numerous times), Seattle (numerous times), Ferguson, Baltimore, NYC (many times preceding this week).

Now we have the week long orgy of violence based in leftist protests.

Almost all of the above had zero instigation by police -- the moves were all on the 'protesters'.

But now you seemingly say, 'well golly gee willikers its only because LAW ENFORCEMENT ESCALATION' that the aforementioned happened. That doesnt fit the historical factual record.