(02-03-2020 06:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 03:55 PM)mrbig Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 11:29 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  When you can point o investigations and impeachments, false dossiers and lying to FISA courts, call me back.

As for your other Fox News talking points, the FISA stuff isn't really a partisan issue. ...

I find this very insulting. Odd coming from the guy who complained about civility. Well, not really, considering the Democratic Double Standard.
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On what basis do you think a thoughtful conservative could not come to certain conclusions without listening to Fox News? Many of my ideas were formed long before Fox News existed. Maybe they are parroting me. I do change, when presented with a thoughtful case that changes my thinking.

Perhaps you have blocked me again, but if you read my comment more carefully, you will note that my "Fox News talking points" comment was only about the remaining things you mentioned in that specific post (which I bolded). That comment was not meant at all to be directed at everything you have posted on politics or policy.

I don't think all your policy viewpoints are Fox News talking points. To the contrary, I realize (and you have done a good job pointing out) areas where you do not agree with mainstream conservative orthodoxy. My comment was limited to your discussions of impeachment, false dossiers, and lying to FISA courts (etc.). I find your comments on political discussions (as opposed to policy discussions) to be very similar to the blurbs I see on Fox News and being screamed at me by Lindsey Graham.

(02-03-2020 06:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Yes, I try to set the record straight. I am not a Republican, a word that when you use it, sounds a lot like leper or nazi.

Really? Maybe you are confusing me with someone else? I'm not very fond of most of the current Republicans in Congress, but my antipathy is largely limited to them and Trump.

(02-03-2020 06:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I am not a party animal, certainly not to the extent you are.

I mean, I like beer, but I live a pretty boring existence and am hardly a party animal.

(02-03-2020 06:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I wish the Libertarians were mainstream - they would get a lot more of my support.

Me too! Part of the reason I support ranked choice voting!

(02-03-2020 06:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  How diverse have your presidential votes been?

Gore, Kerry, Obama x2, Clinton. I haven't been thumping my chest about not being a democrat . I will say that my favorite politicians throughout high school and college were Republicans from the northeast like Jim Jeffords, Lincoln Chaffee, Olympia Snow, and Arlen Specter. I felt my beliefs most closely aligned with them, but there haven't been many people like them on ballots in states where I have lived.

Notably, I liked all 4 of them while they were still Republicans in the late 90's and early 00's. Of course, Jeffords, Chaffee, and Specter later transitioned to independents with Jeffords and Chaffee both ultimately landing in the democratic party.