(02-03-2020 11:02 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 09:38 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Tell me, do you really think that, say, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer have not had the goal of making Donald Trump a one-term president (or less)?

Yes, Pelosi and Schumer have the goal of making Trump a 1-term president. No, I don't have a problem, in theory, of McConnell having had a goal of making Obama a 1-term president. The problem to me is the execution of the goal. To me, it is totally fine to fundraise and campaign. It is ok to negotiate on legislation. It is not OK to slam the breaks on bipartisan legislation, play games with the debt ceiling, etc. So my impression of McConnell's actions is that he was perfectly willing to let the country burn to the ground, break the government, or (possibly) irrevocably break the functionality of the Senate if it meant defeating Obama. I don't see the same level of political and policy ruthlessness from Schumer or Pelosi.

Some are fine with McConnell's hardball tactics. Some think Reid/Schumer started it and blame the dems (DDS?). Some think he is no better or worse then the Dems. Regardless of any of that, I believe McConnell's actions have been bad for democracy and bad for our country. Whether similar games were played by democratic leaders or not does nothing to justify McConnell's actions.

So the Resistance is just a PAC? Hillary said she was joining, i wonder how much she gave.

I can agree with your last sentence, but I find the actions of Democrats and their leaders to be orders of magnitude worse. When you can point o investigations and impeachments, false dossiers and lying to FISA courts, call me back. But the frustrating thing is the blind insistence by your side that the problems with Democrat actions are orders of magnitude less.

The opposition in congress is not supposed to rubberstamp the president's policies and actions. Mac didn't, now Schumer doesn't. Why do you think one is better than the other? Oh, yeah, the letter behind the name that indicates if they are good or bad.