(01-22-2020 04:37 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 04:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 04:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Here is a thought experiment I saw elsewhere, and would like one of our leftward brethren to take a stab at:

Let's pretend that Joe Biden had a different name. No, better: Let's pretend that Joe Biden had a different letter after his name. Let's pretend he's Joe Biden ®, former vice president under George W. Bush.

In that case, what would the Democrats be doing differently?

Is he running for office this year?

With respect to impeachment, THE issue is that Trump only pressured Ukraine because Biden is likely to be his opponent in the election.

Between testimony during the impeachment hearings (like the testimony that made it clear the Biden angle was a personal/campaign matter and not official US policy), Trump's lack of significant anti-corruption effort in Ukraine (his admin has cut Ukrainian anti-corruption funding), and Trump's lack of significant anti-corruption efforts at home and abroad, it is clear that all he wanted was some political leverage.

BFD. So what. Aren't you the guys that sent Steele to did up dirt from russians?

If you are going to act holier than thou, best to be a little holier, at least.

Is it alleged to be bribery or treason? No. Is it a high crime? No. to be so, it would first have to be a crime.

Just leaves misdemeanors. What's a misdemeanor? Is acting up in class a misdemeanor?

lad just told us the only thing that made it wrong was the (D) behind Biden's name and that Biden was running.

Apparently doing the exact same course of events but replacing the coke-whoring son of the then sitting VP with Ted Cruz Jr is hunky dory in lad-town.

When you make that name change and come to such amazingly dissimilar outcomes, it really kind of underlines the sham that is going on. Thank you, lad, for emphasizing that point of difference so startlingly for us.....