(01-22-2020 04:06 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 03:57 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 01:50 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 01:46 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 01:39 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  0.3% of the 4.8MM vote turnout in Michigan in 2016 is ~14,000 people. So there are 14,000 anecdotes in one state...

Leroy was from WI lad. I suggest you read.

The 0.3% referenced was from Michigan... From Big:

Quote:Meredith and his colleagues estimate that 0.3 to 0.6 percent of Michigan voters didn’t have photo IDs when they showed up to vote during the 2016 general election.

You previously said:

Quote:But, the sole issue that is continuously trotted out as the anathema any Voter ID law is just that. Typically an anecdote of a single person.

And *surprisingly* (not) one of the pieces that was brought out was the heart-wrenching saga of Leroy from Wisconsin. Thus the reason for my comment. You apparently blipped over that. Too excited to get off the oh-so solemn ode to anecdotes, I guess. Well perhpaps let's look at that as well.

No it wasn't! The quote from you (post 10616) was from a post before Big's that referenced the Wisconsin anecdote (post 10620).

Why not just say you misunderstood what post I was referencing?

Talk about being too excited - fricken hilarious.

Quote:Funny you now state so solemnly that there are umpteen thousand anecdotes. Really? They could be umpteen thousand absolute morons who dont realize that they may have needed to register, but you blip over that as well.

Or, it could be umpteen thousand shitbirds who want to vote knowing full well that they havent fulfilled the prerequisites. Again, you blip over that possibility in your oh-so solemn 'umpteen thousand anecdotes' proclamation.

Funny that.

I guess in your mind all the umpteen thousand you so solemnly proclaim as heart-wrenching anecdotes all have the same back story as Larry from Wisconsin.

Ok? You're making a lot of inferences about what I was trying to say or what is in my mind.

Look at my initial reply to your comment about anecdotes (post 10618) - you'll see how I said "I have primarily seen people discuss studies evaluating the potential or actual effect of voter ID laws and not single individuals' anecdotes."

So, in my mind, there has been actual work done to evaluate the effect of these sorts of laws that can quantify the number of people affected. I stated there were 14,000 anecdotes in Michigan as a play on your argument about anecdotes being the evidence "trotted out."

Quote:I suggest you both read AND remember what you said, ya' dingus. (or just leave off the completely unnecessary, and rather hilariously bad, extra curricular language at the end).

My comment was on the absolute prevalence of using the heart-wrenching story as the lede for the issue. And, true to form Big supplies us the story of Larry from Indiana. Somehow you missed that connection between the statements.

Uh, you actually said:

" But, the sole issue that is continuously trotted out as the anathema any Voter ID law is just that. Typically an anecdote of a single person.

I think you need to show us objective proof of how bad Voter ID laws inhibit voting, come to think of it....."

You said nothing about the prevalence of using these as the LEDE, but rather that they were the evidence. And then you asked for objective proof, which Big gave you.
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And then I chided him on the inclusion of the Larry sob story. You know, the very extraneous Larry sob story. The Larry sob story that is seemingly within every progressive comment or argument on the subject. I guess you didnt see that.....