(01-16-2020 11:05 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 06:11 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 01:43 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 10:20 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  China deal

Just phase one, but which one will help Americans more, the China deal or the impeachment?

Which one will CNN cover more?

Well according to the trusted BBC, Trump and Xi Jingping are winners. The losers? American companies, American consumers, American manufacturers, and American farmers.

I think we should hold off judging the effects of impeachment until the process is at least completed. Hard to speculate with so many unknowns.

What unknowns? If you want to bet on removal, I will take that bet. Or are you referring to the future impeachments for things to be named later?

I am not referring to future impeachments. I am not referring to removal because I can't imagine the situation that would result in that many Republicans voting to remove.

I am referring to whether any new live witnesses are called, whether any Republicans vote to remove, whether there are any clashes between the senate Republicans and Chief Justice Roberts, and whether additional information comes out specifically on the Ukraine issue after the Senate does not remove Trump from office that is damning. And probably other stuff I'm too unimaginative to imagine. If Bolton and Mulvaney end up testifying and additional documents are produced, who knows what would happen or how impeachment would effect the 2020 election.

My guess is that if Bolton and Mulvaney testify, Democrats will wish they had never called for them.

You seriously think this agreement with China is a bad thing? Would no agreement be better?