(01-11-2020 06:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-11-2020 05:40 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-11-2020 05:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-11-2020 04:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Soleimani certainly deserved his fate, based on his actions.

And I'm betting that if someone other than Donald Trump had been the president who ordered him killed, you would have been 100% supportive.

Quote:The decision by Trump to strike Soleimani then directly led to Iran shooting down a plane full of innocent people, because Iran went into a defensive posture.

Unproved, and actually quite a reach.

First of all, I’m still waiting to see how the next few months play out as to whether or not it was the right decision. If tensions don’t escalate, then it will have been a very good decision.
And with Iran admitting it mistakenly shot down the plane, I don’t know how you can say it is a reach that the mistake was entirely due to the heightened tensions immediately following the Soleimani assassination and the missile attack in Iraq, which happened the day before.

They mistook an outbound, climbing passenger jet for an inbound, descending cruise missile. That is the equivalent of mistaking a battleship for an avocado. It was either intentional (and that may or may not prove up, depending on whether there was somebody on the passenger manifest that the Iranians wanted dead) or it was a mistake of such proportions that blaming it on any outside factors would be patently absurd.

Here is a helpful guide so we are all on the same page. Maybe Fountains can find us a gif with both in them....