(01-07-2020 10:04 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 02:19 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:07 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I have always though this statement appropriate: Obama’s legacy was self-inflicted defeat everywhere we faced Islamist terror.

Bin Laden is sure to agree.

Iraq, Syria, Libya, Iran, ISIS, and Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods would probably disagree.
Might write off that dude who made the video about Muhammad and went to prison after the weight of the US government blamed his video to salvage an election.
It would have been easier — and would have cost far fewer lives — if we had just stayed. But Obama had to have a campaign issue.
I was especially impressed with his adroit complete reversal to put ground troops *back* into Iraq in 2016; it would have been easier — and would have cost far fewer lives — if we had just stayed. But Obama had to have a campaign issue. See the above point about the jailing of the 'producer' of the Muhammad video into the pokey to deflect from Ambassador Stevens and the utter non-response of his administration to help anyone on the ground there.

Minor quibble. It was not the failure to help, but rather the failure to have anyone in a position and location from which help could be provided. The former would be a failure to respond to a crisis, the latter would be intentional, almost as if a crisis was wanted. But why?