(01-06-2020 11:06 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-06-2020 11:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-06-2020 11:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-06-2020 10:49 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Ah, gotcha. I thought you were saying no one on this board thought that there were others here who supported those chants.
And I don't think Talib or Omar feel that way - do you have examples of them supporting such a vitriolic stance? In this conversation, there is a quote from James Baldwin I think about a lot:
“I love America more than any other country in the world and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.”
Let's not conflate their criticisms of Trump, or even America at large, with advocating for the death of America.

"Some people did something," comes pretty close.
I don't think either one would be dumb enough to say overtly, "Death to America." But I think they make their feelings on the issue pretty clear.

Really?

Quote:She has faced criticism for using the phrase “some people did something” in remarks about the attacks during a speech in March. She used the phrase while speaking to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, stating that the group “was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.”

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:7354840002
Yes, truly very close to shouting "Death to America!"

I think speaking to CAIR comes pretty close to shouting, "Death to America," and supporting or defending her comments made their comes pretty close to indirect support.

I don't know enough to understand why even talking to this organization is so hateful. Can you explain it a bit?

I see through a quick search that there are accusations of it being tied to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas, but it sounds like your understanding is great enough that you could give me a quicker download/primer.