(12-13-2019 01:30 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-13-2019 01:03 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-13-2019 12:08 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-13-2019 11:43 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I don't think I can begin to describe the difference between an internal bias (which is natural) and manufacturing evidence or making intentionally false statements (which is criminal).
There is a difference between thinking Trump is a crook and looking for evidence to prove it, and in the absence of that, manufacturing such evidence.
I mean seriously, how is this any different than a cop who plants a gun or claims that the guy he shot had one?
What would the left be arguing if that had been the circumstances rather than this? That because the guy was a bully, that he deserved it so it was okay?

Wait, an FBI agent manufactured evidence that says Trump was a crook?

As opposed to the nitpick on what the evidence was directed it, perhaps the major focus is that evidence was manufactured in what is conceivably the most important investgation undertaken by the FBI in the last 70 years. But why let that get in the way of your extremely minor nitpicking point..........

Was evidence manufactured?
I know the email was edited, but it wasn't used as evidence. The email was in regards to Page's previous work as an informant.
That's not saying the email editing was correct, or trying to minimize it. But that's not the same as manufacturing evidence, right?
In order to have a conversation, we at least need to be working from the same, common set of facts/understandings of what was found in the IG report.

I believe the email was used before the FISA court, although I will admit that so much stuff is being hurled around that I may be wrong. I'm sure, though, that you will be quick to correct me if I am. But if it was presented to the FISA court, then it is evidence.

I personally dislike the FISA court, and have consistently voiced my opposition. I would dislike it a lot less if there were a provision for an ad litem to address the interests of the potential target. Doing so could actually prevent some of the more egregious violations. That was actually proposed some years ago in a bill written by guess whom? Adam Schiff.