(12-12-2019 11:47 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-12-2019 11:42 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-12-2019 11:18 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-12-2019 11:06 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-12-2019 10:28 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Bears repeating.

Cruz: "A lawyer at the FBI creates fraudulent evidence, alters an email that is in turn used as the basis for a sworn statement to the court that the court relies upon. Am I stating that accurately?"

Horowitz: "Thats correct. Thats what occurred"

Pretty unequivocal.

Pretty far from the cry that "we have been exonerated!" that Comey et all, plus the Democrat cheerleaders here have been leading.

Clearly, the leftists in government acted badly, in fact, fraudulently, to achieve a political goal.

And those same leftists want to impeach Trump for doing the same?

Double standard. Hypocrisy.

It actually isn't clear why any of those people acted how they did. Reading through the executive summary a bit more (it does discuss what edit was made to the email), it seems like the IG believes the primary cause for these errors was a lack of understanding of the Woods Procedure by agents, and then a lack of oversight by superiors in checking their work.

We know that agents within the FBI both supported Trump and Hillary, and it's most likely that biases were put aside on both ends. But who knows.

Pretty clear to me, when considered in the context of all that has happened the last four years. Where there is smoke...

But if the Democrats want to put their eggs in the basket of FBI incompetence, that is their choice. I wonder which is worse, an incompetent FBI or a malevolent one. An agency run by the Marx brothers, or one run by the Deep State.

I think the IG report is a clear black eye for the FBI, and Comey can't really spin it to make it look good for them. Your comment about smoke would mean that there must have been collusion with the Trump campaign, but we found that there wasn't sufficient evidence to suggest that. In reality, when there is smoke there is a reason to investigate - as in, open an investigation into the Trump campaign and have the IG investigate the FBI's actions.

It could have been a lot worse for the FBI - there could have been evidence of the FBI improperly opening the investigation into the Trump campaign and the four associates or acting in a biased manner. We'll see what that other report coming out says, and if it suggests either of those things occurred.

You sure read more into the smoke than I do...

17 acts --- none of them have a 'satisfactory explanation'. Yet still not even a notion of bias. Got it.

I think you need to join the FBI with that viewpoint.