(07-30-2019 04:48 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  So let me get this straight, you do think people are justified in their outrage over Trump's tweets about Baltimore?

I didn't quote it here, but the term 'any' justification is incredibly open-ended. There is SOME justification for just about anything. If someone honestly believes something to be true (even if it is not) then it has SOME justification. The question here is whether the justification somehow negates the point.

The clearly justified outrage over Trump is his insistence on being socially aggressive, even when it seems to serve no real purpose and sometimes even seems counter-productive. Of course, if there is a good enough reason that I can't imagine and he hasn't articulated, maybe even that outrage isn't justified... but I think most who lean right but don't like Trump would agree with this....

That said... I've yet to see (though I am open to see it) any real proof of Trump as a racist. I asked someone once for his proof and he gave me some 1970's housing dispute and an unsubstantiated claim from a 'tell all' book read on the house floor, as if that somehow made it fact.... followed by a decent number of things that if you held them 'just so' and assumed a lot of facts not in evidence, COULD be argued (not proved) to support such an opinion.

If you have more, I'd love to see it. I don't like the guy one bit... but I don't hate ALL of his politics, only some.... but being against illegal immigration... being against a permanent under-class.... being against poorly run cities filled with obvious issues does not make someone racist. It comes from believing that people of color are ALL 'beneath' you.... not that an individual person of color is, but that an entire race is.