(07-29-2019 07:24 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 07:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 06:35 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 06:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 05:39 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  I'm curious where and if you rightys draw the line on Trump's talk. I wasn't following this back then but I'm going to need to back and look. I assume there was a "grab them by the p****" discussion pre-election?

I draw the line when it becomes racist.

I draw the line when it *is* racist. We are in the midst of seeing a lot of talk *become* supposedly racist on a 'because he said it' basis.
I agree with Frizz.
"Grab them by the *****" is absolutely vulgar.
"Shithole" is vulgar -- albeit fairly descriptive. And absolutely raw talk.
"Disgusting, rat- and rodent-infested mess" is neither vulgar nor racist. And raw talk --- one step below the entry preceding. Something to say to deliberately knock someone back on their heels and elicit a response.
And look what it did.

Exactly. I went for brevity. You were more explicit and detailed.

I'm not sure that the term "vulgar" adequately captures Trump's phrase "Grab them by the *****". It is really beyond vulgar, right? "Vulgar" doesn't really capture the sexual assault association that comes with that phrase. The description "completely unacceptable" is a better one than "vulgar" IMHO.

That verbiage *would* be completely acceptable in some places. Clubhouses of the Hell's Angels or Bandidos comes to mind.

Pretty much every seismic crew I was ever with as well.

Just about every drilling platform I have ever been on (North Sea, Irish Sea, Africa, Gulf, SE Asia).

More than one construction crew, or welding crew as well.

More than one gathering of male family members in any number of about a dozen or so South American countries and Mexico.

At well more than a dozen or so nights drinking sochu in Korea or Japan with 10 or more males.

I guess in your world it is all cheese and wine all the time.

Not saying it isnt vulgar. Starkly so. And greatly so.

In some places that talk actually is acceptable, notwithstanding your edict to the contrary. When can I get you a ticket to head out to the Gulf of Mexico to preach to them out there on their language? What dates are good for you for that?