(07-23-2019 05:57 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 04:16 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 03:42 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 03:36 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 03:23 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  I'm not defending Trump's competence, but I'm surprised you used that example. That's an eminently sensible statement, and completely true.

I think sometimes what upsets people more than what Trump says is how he says it. It's not couched in euphemisms and ellipses - it's too blunt and truthy. Or, maybe the very fact that he doesn't use circumlocutions like a polished politician is the reason you consider him incompetent in this instance.

Agree. There are 100's of better ways to lay out a strong case for Trump's incompetence.

Are you referring to the incompetence that has the economy Roaring?

In any case, incompetency is not grounds for impeachment.

He is incompetent at writing a book on manners, I will give you that. Obama knows how to bow and apologize, let him write it.

The economy BETTER be rolling. I would it expect it to hugely outpace Obama's economy. I mean... isn't that what should follow after one completely dismantles regulations (environmental and otherwise) on big business?

*Completely* dismantles regulations. Wow, I take it you forgot to take your rhetoric-control fever meds today. Good lord......

You're right... I slipped into hyperbole here. Should have said "aggressively dismantled". My bad.

Quote:Brings up serious question, to both 93 and lad?

How many times have you, in business, had a project going, and the Federal GetInTheWay Administration called your C-level up and told them to 'cease and desist' from the main body of your business, and that you have been fined, say, 5k a day retroactively for the last 30 days?

If any answer > How many times did it go to a hearing stage, and how many to the ALJ stage?

My guess is that between the two of you, I would surmise zero. Or, the answer is 'I heard about something like that from somebody, but I wasnt involved.'

Serious question for the two of you.

I haven't ever been in that situation.