(07-21-2019 09:48 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-21-2019 09:23 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Well, a base question then, both to 93 and lad: why the absolute overrriding urgency to make *any* comment about how supposedly 'progressive' or 'unprogressive' something is/was, especially something 70 or so years ago?

Why the absolute urge (at least by the part of the lad) to be the apparent expert on 'that point in time' on the issue (my guess is that perhaps the lad's parents werent even born at that time).

93, even in the midst of this you continually take on a lecturing tone. With me above, with OO previously, and to be blunt, ostensibly about Trump (supporters, base, followers).

Perhaps an astute fella like you might note that pattern.

Perhaps even tie it back to the assertion of of being smug, condescending, etc.

Maybe there is a pattern to that as well.

So why the overriding urge to make *any* comment about *any* supposed 'progressivism' or lack thereof?

But seriously, it comes across to some as 'well good for *you* for acting so civilized, even at young age'. And when noted, you all dig the trenches about it.

But the singular fact is that there is some apparent, very deep ingrained part that requires you to make asides of that sort. Why exactly do you do that?

You bullshitted your way around that type of flippant aside remark with the Trump supporters, and here are another couple.

1) I made the comment because it was counter to my experience in high school where there was open homophobia that I experienced first hand. Given that the treatment of gay people has generally improved over the years, it was contrary to my preconceived notions for the time, regardless of the place. Sorry for talking on a message board.

2) I never claimed to be an expert in the history of gay rights in the country, but I do know a decent amount about the topic. Why the need to say that I said I was an expert? Why is it surprising that I know the history of a topic and have used that to make a comment? You act as if, just because one was not alive during a period of time, that they can’t use the information they’ve learned over the years to form an opinion. Noticed how I didn’t refute anything OO said, and commented on how it went against my preconceived notion of the treatment of gay people during the early 60s?

3) My parents were both born in the 1950s. Not sure why that is relevant. Do you care to know where they grew up, too?

4) If you want to take the comments the way you are, that’s your prerogative. I was using my own personal experience and commenting on how OO’s was much more positive, yet somehow I’m the *******? It seems like y’all have a real hard time talking about any topic without turning it into some sort of us vs them. A positive comment was turned around into an attack. And liberals are supposed to be the snowflakes...

Re number 4: Sounds like a standard conservative experience. Welcome to the club.

Have we wrung this topic dry yet? I thought my life back in the 50s and 60s and 70s was unremarkable. At this point, I don’t want to remark on it any more.