(07-15-2019 01:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 01:05 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  This is absolutely hilarious.

You rail against all these evil pink-commies or smug, arrogant people that make up the entirety of the democratic party, and how evil they are, without a bit of self-reflection that this exact action is exactly what is getting your panties in a twist. You do realize that there are Trump supporters who literally wear shirts that say "Trump 2020 - **** Your Feelings." Do you think that doesn't equally piss off some people? Do you think those people are critical of what Trump does or says?
Trump has a base of people who support him no matter what he says or does. If he didn't, you would see a lot more people condemn his actions and words on a regular basis, especially after he told sitting Representatives, American citizens, to go back from where they came from.
Do you think he doesn't have a group of supporters that support him, no matter what? You're literally arguing that he doesn't have a base that are uber-supportive of the man, regardless of what he does.
edit: even weirder is I said nothing of deplorables, of these peoples' character, just that they blindly support Trump. There could be a million reasons they blindly support him. The only common thread is that they rationalize away his issues and can't be critical about anything he does. There's a reason Trump's support has pretty much hovered at a certain % for most of his presidency - he has a base that sees him do no wrong...

Number one, I don't consider everyone who votes democrat to be a commie or evil. I do consider what is becoming the democrat base to be both of those things, and what I find absolutely mind-boggling is how many people that I consider to be reasonably intelligent center-left-leaning people are jumping onboard the collectivist/socialist/communist train without a critical eye, to borrow an expression.

I don't doubt that Trump has a "base" that is rude, obnoxious, and uncritical. I speak with people every day that I would characterize that way. But what I object to is the smug, arrogant, condescending, rude way that leftists want to lump everyone who supports Trump into that extremist cadre, which is actually quite small.

There are a lot of people like me. I don't like Donald Trump, and I am particularly unhappy with his diarrhea of the mouth excesses. Unlike the people you are attempting to characterize, I have disagreed with him on a lot of things and been quite vocal about it. But it's looking like I'm going to be given a choice of a a-hole or a commie for president in 2020, and if my vote matters it is going with the a-hole all the way.

Without intending to put words in their mouths, I think OO and several others on here feel pretty much the same way. Trump simply can't be bad enough to be as bad as the options the democrats are giving us. Let democrats run a business-friendly, pro-growth candidate--like JFK or even Bill Clinton, for example--and we would probably go that way. But we can't stomach anybody the democrats are running.

The left tries to characterize every Trump voter as the personification of evil, but when called on it says something like, "Oh, I didn't mean you." But the left are the ones that I see falling for an absolutely absurd agenda without a critical eye, to borrow that expression again. And that is what I can't understand.