(07-15-2019 01:08 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-15-2019 12:22 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-14-2019 10:30 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-14-2019 09:24 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-14-2019 07:05 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  George: “Many liberals think that minorities are stupid.”

Me: “Trump’s base seems to appreciate his harsh anti-immigrant rhetoric.”

Tanq: *clutches pearls* “How could you, Rice93?”

Beautiful, Tanq.

Im just pointing out you just made one of those smug, condescending statements that we had a discussion about previously. And while not as 'in your face' (i.e. the 'oblique' language I used), it pretty much is the same as Hillary's deplorable comment both in terms of a mindset and whom she believed had that mindset as a general rule. Now you are furiously backtracking into some diplomatic version to cover your ass now that it was called out. Triple lolz.

Definitely not walking back my statement.

It's funny that you mention "smug". I've noticed that you guys have no problem making sweeping statements about the left however the minute Lad or I point out something less-than-favorable about the right a chorus of "How very smug! How condescending" rains down.

We'll have to agree to disagree that my statement was somehow equivalent to the Deplorables comment.

Quote:And no, its not a "how could you", its "Bravo, knew it was in you", followed by some hearty chuckling at this end to see you try and walk away from it without your bare ass hanging out.

It's amazing that you are so powerfully confident in my intentions despite you being told by me that you are wrong about my intentions.

Quote:Yep, I am *sure* your explicit calling out of people as 'not being from here' had *everything* to do with immigration policy. Quadruple lolz.

You guys are so very sensitive to being called racists by the left that you are quick to consider almost any comment as tantamount to being called a racist. Quintuple lolz.

I didn't call anybody a racist. When I read Trump's tweet I didn't think, "What a racist!". I thought, "What a sh***y person!" You apparently think that Trump's tweets were obviously racist or you wouldn't be so wound up by this. Is the fact that the president is putting out tweets that you consider floridly racist a problem for you?

Here is my verbatim quote" "Not sure if this will affect him negatively from a political standpoint. It seems that this type of language is appreciated by his base." Do you disagree with this? Is this statement offensive to you? If so, why?

I too find Trump's comments crass and ******. I am glad that the tagline about the Congresswomen that were born in the United States has zero racial component in it. The 6 or so liberal commentators in blogs, opinion pieces, and TV that I have seen who have parroted that sentence almost verbatim all have more explicitly injected the racial component into the statement. Thank you for injecting it in such a benign manner when hardly anyone else has chosen to do so. Evocative of Mother Theresa I must say....

I find someone who states that Trump supporters will lap this up as smug and condescending. To a very large degree in fact. More artful and oblique that Hillary's method of doing so, but pretty much the same.

Odd you cant wrap your head around that. Actually, after pause, let me change that to I'm not surprised.

You arent helping your case with all your thrashing, I hope you know.

So your comment is now self-defined by you as 'Trump supporters are the type of people who will lap up ****** and crass comments'. Do you think that is any better of a case for you on the 'smug and condescending' verdict opined here earlier?

Thank you for admitting that your first reaction was that the comments were ******. And that "[i]t seems that this type of [sh-tty] language is appreciated by his base." Is that a fair quote of your stance? Anything there you want to change after your deep explanation?

I dont see any reason to move off my characterization of your comment as 'smug' and nothing short of utterly 'condescending' to Trump supporters with your further clarification on your personal view of the tweet. It actually kind of buttresses it when one reads your full explanation.

Tanq - do you think these are comments his base will denounce? Or even say they think they’re wrong? There is a ton of evidence that his base loves when he isn’t “politically correct” and “tells it like it is.” And when he has said similarly, inflamatory things, his fervent base eats it up.

lad --- do you think that the comments that Trump made have a racial component? Yes or no.

I mean, cut the crap about dancing around the issue with words like "politically correct" and "tells it like it is" and "hard-edged comments on the relative issues in immigration" that you two are now putting forth.

Please do tell what comments he has made that are so 'similar' and 'inflammatory' to be such exacting comparables in your statement. All ears here.

As for your questions, Ive noted several conservative political commentators that have expressly stated that they were wrong. But the issue isnt that, it is the comments that 93 has made that the drool buckets that are ostensibly Trump supporters will eat this up, and if I am not mistaken you are joining that chorus? Smug bug seems to be prevalent these days, bad contagion rate?