(07-06-2019 03:39 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:57 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 11:05 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Re: the 'citizens' question, directed to '93:

What do you think the mission and job of the census is?

I think the mission is to determine how many people are living in America? Where do they live and what is the demographic make-up of the various regions of our country?

Obviously both sides want the census to serve their political purposes. The Democrats are no more or less guilty than the Republicans when it comes to this.

An accurate Census is vitally important beyond the gerrymandering in which both sides partake.

The distribution of state and federal funding is reliant on accurate Census data. If you have millions of people unwilling to provide accurate data for the Census it is a real problem.

You leave off the information gathering function of the census. Funny that.

As you leave off the question about this being kind of a basic piece of information. Funny that.

Care to answer if you feel or dont feel that citizenship isnt a basic piece of information? Third time asked might be the charm.

I mean, they have already asked:

Is this house, apartment, or mobile home: owned with mortgage, owned without mortgage, rented, occupied without rent?

What is the highest degree or level of school this each person has completed?

Does any person have an issue with learning, remembering, or concentrating?

What kind of work was this person doing?

What time did this person usually leave home to go to work last week?

Wages, salary, commissions, bonuses, or tips from all jobs?

What were the real estate taxes on this property last year?

And, here is some real funny ones from 2000 itself:

What state or country was this person from?
Is this person a citizen of the United States?
If the person was not born in the United States, when did he come to live in the United States?

Not only do they ask these questions, there is a requirement at law to answer them.

So given the issue with the informational aspect of the census, the fact that I have been asked literally almost everything else about the household, that they have *already* deemed it appropriate to ask about the citizenship, *and* that they require that answering their questions is required by law, perhaps that background might be able to help you answer that question you seemingly so studiously avoid.

So, unambiguously for all of us here:

"Seems to be kind of one of those 'basic questions', does it not?" Especially since everything else in the friggin universe is asked, *and* an answer is required by law.

Please help clear this up for us.

Quick response as just getting back from holiday weekend.

These questions that you reference are not found on today's census. It seems that you are referencing questions that might by found on the American Community Survey (not the census). As I understand it, today's census is pretty limited.

This is from the Population Reference Bureau website:

"Census Bureau research strongly suggests that “adding a citizenship question to the 2020 Census would lead to lower self-response rates in households potentially containing noncitizens, resulting in higher fieldwork costs and a lower-quality population count.” [3] Estimates indicate that the addition of a citizenship question to the 2020 Census may put almost one in 10 U.S. households—more than 14 percent of the population, and nearly 45 million people—at greater risk of being missed in the Census. [4] Undercount risk is particularly high among young children (under age 5) because nearly one in five of them lives in a household with at least one noncitizen. [5]"


https://www.prb.org/why-are-they-asking-...questions/