(06-22-2019 09:33 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 04:32 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 03:30 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 02:56 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  These are the key words to me:

"...in the certainty of his righteousness, felt justified..."

Yes, all sorts of people get this attitude: devout Christians sometimes do, for example. That's why some will bomb abortion clinics. when was the last bombing, anyway?

You came up with a prime example when it comes to devout Christians. There was that recent police detective in Tennessee that lost his job recently after videos surfaced where he was giving sermons during which he stated that gay people should receive the death penalty. Talk about "certainty of his righteousness"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c-arO79hjo

So, a lone detective vs. Antifa and the shouting down of right wing speakers? Yep, equal.

Kind of points out what I believe to be true - most (90%?) of the people who feel justified by the righteousness of their beliefs and the certainty in them are...on the left.

Saying there are people on both sides who demonstrate this is not the same as saying it is 50/50.

Who was so certain of their righteousness in the Kavanaugh hearings? The ladies in the elevator? The Democrat committee members? The demonstrators outside?

Who was so certain of the righteousness of the Trump-Russia witch hunt? The right? Noooooo...

Yes, there are people on both sides - but not equal numbers, and not equal, not even proportionate, actions. When WAS the last clinic bombing?

Rather relevant story given your continued focus on Antifa, without recognizing similar issues on the right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com...1561240791

Quote:Law-enforcement officials closed the state Capitol on Saturday, following threats from militia groups that were made while a partisan showdown has halted all activity in the Oregon Senate.

“The State Police Superintendent just informed the Senate president of a credible threat from militia groups coming to the Capitol tomorrow,” read a text sent out to senators on Friday that was shared with The Wall Street Journal. “The Superintendent strongly recommends that no one come to the Capitol.”

When I read that article the threat was never identified.

So to be straight about this you are comparing, perhaps even equating:

a) hundreds of rampaging people who are literally throwing explosive devices, yielding maces fabricated from metal locks, using the same maces, wielding and using 2x4s, and scores in not hundreds of weapons (many that when used could kill)

to

b) an unspecified threat, that may or may not be credible.

Is that a fair marshaling of the issue and equivalence that you are presenting?

Perhaps when a serious amount of meat is added to the fairly sketchy details of the latter, and perhaps that repeated, oh, twenty or twenty five times I would probably be in agreement with you.

Perhaps when a group of righteous righties band together to create threats on college campuses with the express intent to shut down free speech, say, forty or fifty times --- again I might be in agreement with you.

I would suggest hitting the records to find all those rioting conservatives trying to intimidate college speakers all over the place.