(06-15-2019 10:33 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 09:50 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 01:42 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 02:58 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 02:17 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I’m better than both of you. I take care of my physically and mentally challenged sister to the tune of $60K a year, plus I drive her to all her appointments, manage her affairs. Because I can afford to do this, at least for now, the left thinks I don’t deserve/need my money and it should be taken from me and used to make somebody more equal. Somebody not me and not my sister.

But I get a $200credit on my taxes for my efforts. Tax break for the rich, I think it is called.

The left likely thinks that you shouldn't have to pay $60k per year to provide adequate care for your sister and that someone with physical and mental handicaps should have publicly funded healthcare caring for them.

what does the left think it should do for somebody who has some illiquid assets but no money and no income?

I can tell you. The left won’t lift a finger until she is penniless.

So she has no cash, and the govmint won’t help because she is “rich”. (That is, not broke).

But if you would like to contribute $500 a month, I will let you. After all, you don’t need it, and you don’t deserve it, and my sister needs it, and she deserves it.

The same thing everyone else - have basic healthcare covered by the government. That's what would happen in a program like M4A. Have you really not figured out that progressives have been fighting for a system that provides coverage for all citizens?

Your sister is a perfect example of the type of person who is left out in the current system and who would benefit from a chance in our healthcare system. I know that she would be covered with a system like M4A, but I'm less sure of how she would be handled in the Bismark system that Owl#s advocates for (but my guess is she would be provided for in that system as well).

You guys have all made the same wrong assumption. My cost is not health care. She has healthcare from Medicare and a supplement paid for from her SocSec. What I pay for is her living expenses - a place to live, food, with a staff to help her bathe and when she falls and do her laundry. It is called Senior Residential Living, and is not subsidized by the government. So the healthcare debate you guys are having is moot.

The SocSec check is her only income, and without me, she would be living under bridge or dead. The government and the liberals could not care less.

She is “rich” because she has a 1/3 share of some property in another county with former partners, who do not want to sell due to taxes. But her
disposable income is less than 5% of her needs.

She is not retarded. She has a Ph.D. And speaks - spoke - five languages. She is crazy - delusional - and if the government takes over her care, it will be in a dank pit of a place. Ever see “One flew over the cuckoo’s nest”?

Physically she is on a walker due to multiple back surgeries, and on oxygen due to partially paralyzed diaphragm. She cannot work. She is 71 now.

I guess I could take the progressive view and just leave it up to the government to take of her with Warren Buffet’s Taxes. If I did that, the government would let her die in the streets. Good thing she has a brother who prospered in the capitalistic system and saved some money instead of relying on the government to support HIM in his old age.

Advice for the young(er) - buy Long term care insurance. (Unless your plan is to go broke and rely on the government) Save your money, at least what they let you keep. Forego spending needlessly. Don’t trip and fall.

I don’t know every single nitty gritty detail of what is/isn’t covered, but I would find it surprising if senior care or mental health care were not covered under most progressive programs for universal healthcare, in ways that don’t just cover nursing homes or mental health wards.

It sounds to me like your sister is a perfect example of the type of individual that falls through our current system’s cracks and who should have some sort of safety net provided. As you said - don’t trip and fall. Our current system is woefully ill equipped to cover people who are on the **** end of the stick. Thank god preexisting conditions are at least covered these days.