(05-14-2019 04:06 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 03:56 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 02:49 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 02:26 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 02:02 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Some consistently blend Benghazi in with the totality of the email stuff.

And yes, the tarmac meeting at least to me is seemingly unrelated. Kind of like the relation of Manafort's tax evasion to Russian collusion, eh?

Tangentially related, I said. All part and parcel of the elect Hillary/defeat Trump effort. But related or not, I would like to hear the results of an investigation into this. As long as Bill and Loretta keep their stories straight, I doubt anything can be found. But it would be interesting to hear the testimony of airport personnel and pilots to their instructions on where to park, etc. Also the whistle blower.

I personally think Lynch was offered a SCOTUS appointment. JMHO. No evidence, same as the Russia investigation.

You never said anything about that being tangentially related. And even if you did, it isn't tangentially related, at all, based on our current knowledge.1

If the Barr investigation somehow takes them to the meeting, then the tarmac meeting will be germane and tangentially related. But given its timing and its supposed relation to emails and not the election, it seems to have had nothing to do with Russia, and therefore, hoping it is included seems like a bit of a stretch.

How can you justify that it be included, while simultaneously complaining that the Russia investigation is an overreach? 2

By the way, Manafort's financial ties to Ukraine/Russia seems awfully germane to an investigation into whether or not someone conspired with the Russian government to influence the election. 3

Also, what whistleblower are you talking about? 4

OK, sequentially:

1. Right, the phrase I actually used was "peripherally aligned". Seems close to "tangentially" to me, but you are the engineer. To me, it is a part of a body of work designed to enhance the chances of a Hillary election and/or diminish the chances of a Trump election. Dropping the investigation would achieve both. Getting the investigation closed and getting Trump investigated achieve the same goal - helping Hillary win.

2. Tit/tat, goose/gander. But I also think it has more direct salience to the election than some of the stuff you guys cited against Trump.

3. Well, Mueller didn't think so. But we have Ukraine in connection to the Clinton Campaign AND in connection to Biden, so if you think those old connections of manaforts were smoky, you must be coughing a lot now.

4. The one who notified the press and ruined the secrecy of the meeting.

1) Ah, I missed your response where you dove into the tarmac meeting. Don't buy that this was peripherally related to the Trump-Russia investigation on the surface, though. But like I said, if the investigation takes it there, then so be it.

2) At least you're honest about being a flag-waving partisan. I'll commend you for that.

3) What do you mean Mueller didn't think so? Obviously Mueller did think so, which is why he ended up investigating Manafort. He thought there was sufficient reason to investigate Manafort's dealings with the Russians, given that he was investigating the Trump campaign colluding with Russia...

And once Russia or Ukraine intentionally help Biden, and he publicly or privately responds as eagerly as Don Jr did, I'll agree that there is smoke. But what benefit has Biden reaped, or actions he has taken to suggest he may be benefiting from Ukraine? The whole reason there was smoke with Trump was he got a benefit (Russia dumping emails).

4) I never saw mention of anyone notifying the press in a "whistleblower" fashion. I thought it was a reporter reviewing plane tracking logs that noticed it.

2. Better a flag-waving partisan than a flag-burning one. I think it fair that your side get the same treatment you gave our side. Don't you? Or do you think your side should be treated differently?

Tit/tat, goose/gander = equal treatment

3. I guess those financial ties were good enough for you guys, since you were so sure there was collusion.

On the other hand, we have a public apology from Ukraine for their efforts to help Hillary. Still haven't seen where Hillary or any of her campaign rejected those efforts.

As for Biden, he bragged about getting an investigator fired who was investigating his son's company, and then the company was awarded a giant contract.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8td7JmW2sI

4. The story I heard was that an airport worker tipped off a friend who was a reporter. I would like to hear the testimony of both those people.

Why the heck would a reporter be reviewing tracking logs?