(04-20-2019 12:04 PM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  I don’t know what will be found. I don’t think anyone is thinking just his 1040 will reveal some deep dark secret. What we do know is that from Nixon on all nominees have disclosed their taxes, except Trump. (Ford, I believe, only released a summary.) Trump knew this when he decided to run for President. He could have said he refused on some principle. He didn’t, he said he couldn’t because he was being audited. A lie. (That he can’t release because of an audit.) Then he promised to release them after the election. Another lie. Now he is willing to go to court to avoid releasing them.

None of this is the behavior of someone who thinks his taxes will reveal nothing. Otherwise he would have revealed them before the election like everyone else. I’m assuming Trump knows something I don’t.

I know what will NOT be found. Any evidence of collusion. Any evidence of tax evasion. And any clue to his "true" net worth. What else are y'all looking for?

Until Nixon did it, the tradition was NOT to release tax returns. At another time, the tradition was for candidates to crisscross the country by train, making speeches at every whistle stop. Traditions change. Used to be a tradition that people at football games would stand for the National Anthem.

He does not have to fear what they might reveal. he has to fear the partisan nit-picking and innuendo from people who know nothing of taxes but think they can discern wrong-doing that the experts have missed. The left has proved that they CAN find bogeymen in shadows. Why would any businessman want people like that looking for bogeymen in his tax returns. The professional polititions have years, even decades, to organize their tax returns to show only innocence. I guess you think they don't take any bribes, since those don't show up on the 1040?

Quote:Trump lies constantly. To pretend he’s just like other politicians is absurd. This idea that somehow he’s so dishonest that it makes him more honest is even more absurd. Just as a comparison, Politifact has Obama at 70 Mostly False, 71 False and 9 Pants on Fire statements after 8 years, while in 2 years Trump is at 139, 227, and 99 respectively. At that rate Trump is on track to be an order of magnitude higher on those and is *already* there with the Pants on Fire ratings. Some of the other trackers have him saying over 20 false or misleading things per day. There is no way, shape or form that is acceptable. And I don't understand why so many people who should no better are rationalizing it.

Some of his lies more important than others: he flat out lied to the NATO Secretary General about where his father was born. Why? I have no idea. That lie itself is not that important, but it does reinforce the Europeans’ belief that he is a dishonest nut job. Maybe some are a joke like you can’t watch TV if the wind stops blowing and you use wind power. Or laughably stupid, like “windmill noise causes cancer”. But plenty are substantive and important, like about Puerto Rico aid, the child separation policy, millions of illegal votes for Hilary, and on and on. These sorts of lies are not defensible and are further poisoning our civic and political culture.

And that just gets in to his dishonesty, not even touching on the misogyny, racism, mocking the disabled, etc.

So he lies constantly? That's what I hear on CNN a lot, but even Politifact says that is not true. And if it is not true, then your statement is itself a lie.

Every statement by every public figure has to be evaluated individually, not just smeared with a one-size-fits-all statement like he "lies constantly."

Quote:The first “wow” was more along the lines of “Wow, that takes some cojones!” and the second was an expression of bemusement.

Wow.