(03-27-2019 04:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I agree with Graham --- the fact that this happened, was promulgated to the extent that it was, *and* with a full exoneration of Trump (and Trump minions for that matter) as to 'collusion, I think a very sharp eye needs to be turned to why the **** a National Enquirer level dossier was allowed to be the genesis of this crap. And why people like Clapper and Brennan have the stink all over them, to the extent of the even 'seeding' the dossier with outside media in order to bolster the FISA warrants.

In short, people like Clapper and Brennan effectively weaponized the law enforcement and intelligence services for the benefit of an Administration and their 'successor' against the nominee of the opposing party. I dont think anyone can really disagree with this at this point. Utterly reprehensible. And now, Brennan has the gall to say 'well golly gee willikers, I guess I had bad information."

The fact that it reached here two years+ later (almost three considering the investigations were ongoing in July 2016) is proof positive of, at the least, absolute fing negligence in the process. At the worst, it rings of malfeasance --- of the level that so many said there was 'plenty of smoke' with when opining about 'collusion' issues.

But, I am sure there isnt enough 'smoke' for that for some, even with the characterization of the full exoneration of Trump re: 'collusion' here.

What an absolute and utterly malignant gift Hillary and the Obama administration left for the US.

Based on what we know the Mueller report found, you can't draw any of these conclusions, and yes, people can reasonably disagree with your points here. For starters, the outcome of an investigation or trial being that someone is not guilty or did not do what they were accused of, is not, in and of itself, proof that the investigation shouldn't have been conducted or that the investigation itself was negligent nor malfeasant.

What was reprehensible was McConnell telling the Obama admin to shove it when they wanted to make it public that Russia was attempting to interfere with the election, prior to the election. Or how about Trump Jr gladly inviting in a Russian asset to share stolen data with them? Or how about Stone coordinating with Wikileaks to release stolen data?

I also like that in the same sentence you side with Graham and then crap on the dossier, which Lindsay Graham said should be submitted to the FBI when McCain disclosed it to him. Graham himself felt that the dossier was valid enough to turn into the FBI, and why would he do that, if not because he wanted them to investigate the dossier's claims???

If the Mueller report (or subsequent investigations) indicate that the FBI and Obama admin made up information, lied, etc. in order to keep tabs on Trump and the Trump campaign, I'll join you in condemning them.