(01-09-2019 10:38 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  You're right that this revelation is not an admission, but that fact alone doesn't mean it isn't a significant development, especially since so many on here have been asking for evidence of collusion.
What is so earth-shattering that the special counsel is accusing Manafort of having provided private campaign polling data to a Russian with ties to Russian intelligence you ask? Well, just that, Trump's campaign adviser provided private polling data to a hostile foreign government, and what do we know that this foreign government did? They targeted specific populations in the US with propaganda and fake news in an attempt to influence the election.
So since the Russians were planning to execute this disinformation campaign, internal polling data would be beneficial with regards to who to target and this is a clear bit of evidence that Mueller believes that a significant player in the Trump campaign provided something of value regarding the election to the Russians.

It might be the most significant development yet, since it is at least a factoid about which substantial innuendo can be woven. That doesn't make it significant, just closer to being significant than two years of wild allegations. Then again, it might not.

Mueller alleged =/= it happened.

A person who happens to be Russian =/= "the Russians."

And what is the nature of what is alleged to have been provided and how could/would/should it have been of use?

(01-09-2019 03:24 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I guess the new narrative is this:
One day in 2015 Trump called Putin, and said, "Vlad, if you will steal Hillary's yoga schedules for me, and get that Swedish guy to publish them exactly as written, without any editing or additions, I am pretty sure that will make the voters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania vote for me and I'll win the election. If it helps, I'll have one of my guys send you polling data, or you could just read the NYT. I cannot promise you anything in return, but I will be grateful". Putin of course replied "Sure, Donny, anything for you. I hate that broad anyway for the insults she gave me."
I wonder how this makes sense to so many of you.

Makes as much sense as any of this whole fantasy.