(12-14-2018 06:33 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-14-2018 03:41 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Given the following:

Cohen has pleaded guilty to a crime.
Cohen has been convicted of that crime.
Cohen is going to prison for that crime.
We are not even sure this is a crime.

when combined, is a real strong reason why I am libertarian for the most part.

You’re forgetting the AMI also plead guilty to a crime.

I guess that is dispositive then. Call out the Supreme Court and note that. Honestly Lad, it doesnt make a flying flip who pled to a crime. Trying to bootstrap a plea to a crime to define something as a crime is pretty much bassackwards. Bummer.

Quote:AMI has now admitted to the U.S. Attorney's office in the Southern District of New York that they worked "in concert with" the Republican campaign in order to "suppress the woman's story so as to prevent it from influencing the election."

So much for the John Edwards defense.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.msnbc.com...ortant/amp
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So Lad,
Lets say I tell you to go to a place and pick up a hotdog and give you money to pay for the hotdog.

You pick up the hotdog and pay for it.

You get nabbed and charged with purchasing drugs.

You plead guilty to purchasing drugs.

Is it your thesis that your pleading guilty to purchasing drugs makes me guilty when only a hotdog was purchased?

AMI's plea changes nothing on the legality or illegality of the payment. All it does is subject AMI to a sanction.

You really need to do better than that. I hate to tell you but a plea is not transitive, nor is a plea dispositive of anything beyond the circle of the person making the plea.

Hey, but it might make a difference if it is 'reactive' or 'proactive'. I forgot completely about that distinction. But, does it make a difference if I am the one being invited or the one inviting? I seem to remember that was an utterly crucial distinction in your world as well....