(10-25-2018 03:07 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 11:14 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 08:32 PM)OldOwlNewHeel2 Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 02:23 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 12:44 PM)OldOwlNewHeel2 Wrote:  Sorry - were you not implying that their undocumented status makes it more difficult to extract federal income taxes from them? If not, then it seems we're talking like a tax evasion problem, not an "illegals" problem.

Their undocumented status helps them avoid taxes, sure, but making them legal will not motivate them to stop avoiding taxes and start paying. Not one penny worth.

If you want a better life for your family, which will help your family more, paying more taxes or having more money to send home?

I don't even know where to start. Under this logic, you should have no problem with amnesty, since apparently nobody would ever want to give up the sweet life of abusive labor practices, constant threat of deportation, and a complete inability to participate in civic life if it means they have to pay some income taxes.

As to the other side of the coin, Tanq nailed it (no doubt inadvertently) by pointing out that it's a lot easier to track financial transactions when there's an SSN associated with them. So there's another benefit.

I mean, seriously.

Well most legal people are forced into getting the SSN. Do you really think that illegals will stand in line for theirs? Seriously.

Well, the whole point of granting amnesty would be to make illegals become legal. That process would include giving them a SSN. If they did not register as a legal resident, then they wouldn't get a SSN, and would still be illegal immigrants, always at risk for being deported.

It's not like the granting of amnesty isn't without some form of documentation/tracking...

So if we grant amnesty to burglars, they will start declaring their loot as income?

There’s more to it than just waving a magic wand and saying “you are legal now”.

So if they don’t register, what is different from now?

And what are the rewards for registering? What do the taxes they would pay as a legal alien get them that they don’t get now? Free driver’s licenses? Free medical care. sanctuary?